Need protection against radar gun - FL

[Virion]

first wat car do you drive and wat color? if u drive a small black car a zr3 could be do-able with veil...also i would highly recommend you look into a Radar detector since most police use radar as opposed to laser...i think its like for every 1-2 lasers there is 10 radar units

Ford Mustang, 2004... no chrome, charcoal gray.... I drive the same roads all the time, and if they used laser on both my stops... plus my freind lives in Dade County (the next town over) and they user laser... so for now I am focusing on laser... I mean the specific road I take daily is patrolled by laser guns, so that's what I need for now...

You are setting yourself up for failure with this mindset. Fairfax County in NOVA uses laser ALMOST all the time, but I still encounter radar from time to time and it's only going to take one more ticket like the ones you posted for you to lose your license for a little while. You must have a RD along with your jammer. Not to mention you need to slow down. Taking a bus, cabs or hitching a ride isn't going to be fun and it will cost you a hell of alot more than an RD and jammer.

[ThE_JOkeR]

^ lol jesus man, do some research! There is lots of info on these forums. Just start reading.
check out the guysoflidar site too. Also there is no "you either slow down.." part to it. Its only "you are gotten" when it comes to laser. (unless its scatter which is not something to depend on AT ALL)

Jammers are the only way to go.... btw make sure you install a on/off switch and turn it off once you slow down so they can get a reading. I also get a fealing you think these tools will make you invincible. Far from the truth. Especially since you want to ignore RD.

[KnightHawk]

Hello all, new user..

I got one ticket 58 in a 50 6 wks or so ago with laser... fast forward to this a.m., I got another ticket 65 in a 50... The irony is it was in the same spot I got the last one... I had not gotten a ticket in 6+ years, now they are on a ticket splurge in this town...

What do you recommend to get me through that area on my daily commute? I was reading about the Escort Laser Shifter ZR3... I do NOT need a radar detector, as the citation indicates they used a laser gun...

I have read of a laser jammer, but surfed a bit and see that they are expensive and some cops claim it is illegal.

Price? It would be great if I can get something for under $300...

Any recommendations?

tks

Sorry to hear about your situation. My suggestion is to read a lot here first. First off, having a radar detector is a false sense of security when it comes to preventing you from having a speeding ticket specially when you consider the budget you have set forth at $300. Even having the best radar detector and laser jammer is not 100% protection. To get close to where your budget is, I would recommend the V1. You can get a refurb around $350 with just an additional $50 on your budget. It has the best laser/radar detection and a good all around unit when it comes to constant on and instant on radar detection.

V1 with good defensive driving techniques and constant awareness is your best bet.

[jdong]

The 8500 is about $350... and it picks up laser... damn I am worried that they pick it up so late in the game, you hardly have time to react... seconds!!bam, you either slow down or you are gotten.

I guess it would be cheaper getting the 8500 vs a laser jammer and the whistler for example.. The Z3 shifter would do what then?

Oh don't get a $350 radar detector to detect laser -- any passive laser countermeasure does not provide good protection -- With my radar detectors only about 10 of the 30 or 40 times I've been hit by laser has it provided an advance warning. Most of the times, it's just a notification that I've been hit and he already has my speed. It's strongly recommended that you get a laser jammer and a cheap radar detector instead.

[MEM-TEK]

^^ I agree. Escort's ZR3, combined with a very light and almost invisible coat of Veil on the headlights and on the taillight corner cube reflectors, should prove to be very effective against laser. Then, to deal with the K and Ka band radar guns which police use in Florida, I suggest either a Bel V955 or a Whistler Pro78.

[alexlakeman]

I just read both tickets and the SAME PD used two different laser guns on both occasions

STALKER LASER 79522.
and
TruSpeed LTI 20/20

Ok, so two differnet units ... what's it going to take?

I'll have to get a radar detecter as well... I have to do more reading, I figured one package detects both radar and laser...

This is scary stuff, I just saw this while reading on the truspeed "The TruSpeed offers speed accuracy of +/- 1 mph and a range of 2,000 feet." That will kill you in such a straight deserted road

[zerbey]

ZR3 would be ok if it's a small car and you keep it below 10 over. $300 is not really a realistic budget for a good laser jammer, though. I would still recommend buying a Radar Detector, I have NEVER encountered laser on the highway in Florida and I've lived here for 9 years.

Save your money and buy a Blinder or a Laser Interceptor if you're worried about laser.

[jdong]

I just read both tickets and the SAME PD used two different laser guns on both occasions

STALKER LASER 79522.
and
TruSpeed LTI 20/20

Ok, so two differnet units ... what's it going to take?

I'll have to get a radar detecter as well... I have to do more reading, I figured one package detects both radar and laser...

This is scary stuff, I just saw this while reading on the truspeed "The TruSpeed offers speed accuracy of +/- 1 mph and a range of 2,000 feet." That will kill you in such a straight deserted road

Yeah, 2000 ft is a pretty normally advertised range of a laser gun, and it's at that distance that laser is the most deadly to the unprotected -- you'd enver see what's coming.

Fortunately at that distance both a laser detector and a laser jammer would come in handy, as it is a slight challenge for them to lock you.

At point-blank range even a jammer won't do you much good -- in that case visually spotting the cop before he targets you can be your best defense.

But to reiterate, detecting laser is not a very good form of protection compared to jamming laser, and there is no all-in-one windshield mount package that does both. A decent radar detector that detects laser is relatively inexpensive (mid $100's gives you a good Bel Vector or Whistler unit), but jamming laser requires much more expensive equipment, and that's where not all are created equal:

Radar Detector Tests and Reviews by Guys of LIDAR - LASER



As you can see, the zr4 did not perform superbly, particularly against the stalker, and the zr3 is supposedly only worse on that scale. However, supporters of the zr3/zr4 units will say this is enough real world protection, and combined with the right car and right complementary protections (Veil, plate blockers, etc) will give you good real world performance.

[stlcardsfan]

Where in FL are you FHP likes their KA a lot of local departments are starting to use laser but a detector is still a good buy if you are on a budget look at the whistler pro 78 rev c its a grerat detector for the price also for a small sedan the zr3 with veil will most likely yeild decent jamming results

I am in south Florida, miami / Ft lauderdale... FHP doesn't use laser?? Wow...

So are you saying I need 1. a radar detector and 2. a laser detector, ie escort lazer shifter z3???

EDIT... looking at the prior citation 2/17, it was 67 in a 50 , using STALKER LASER 79522. and the first ticket (SAME pd ) used a The TruSpeed LTI 20/20
I am wondering if that "few hundred feet" the laser detector warns me, if it will be enough to brake b4 he get me on target... If I am the only one up ahead, by the time my detecter picks up the laser's signal, that means it has reached my car and he got me?? Now I am confused..

From what I've heard the ZR3 sucks against the Stalker and the Ultralyte and won't even jam the Truspeed period.

[languy99]

The cheapest combination I would go with is a laser mask LCM-1 for $200 and a whistler pro 78se for radar. Total you are looking at about $350. This of course is minimal protection and personally I don't know how the laser mask does against the truspeed maybe someone else knows.