new zealand and the new k band cameras

[philnz]

I have been told its about 3 wks,touch wood have not been pinged as I sit on 110-120 when its safe and on the bike a " bit" more

have had the v1 on euro mode and seem to be a bit better but camera was on other side of the mway so will post when I hit one head on

[ka34.739]

thanks mate i look forward to reading your replay

[ghz1]

If you turn to euro mode you will miss 99% of New Zealand police radar.



DRIVER INFORMATION NOTICE JANUARY 2009 - NEW POLICE MOBILE RADAR SPEED CAMERAS

Redflex Traffic Systems of Australia won the New Zealand contract to upgrade the old film cameras with the latest in digital speed camera technology.

These new radar units started appearing on our roads in January 2009.

Unlike the speed cameras that we have been used to (which operated on the Ka band frequency) these new cameras operate on a low frequency K Band signal around the 24.085GHz range (normally K band radar is 24.150GHz).

Because of this “off” frequency point and a very low power output, detection is difficult for many radar units. Those without pulse detection systems are unlikely to give any warning. Those with K POP detection will give some warning range that is variable depending on what side of the road the Camera Van is parked on.

Testing indicates range can be 80-150m.

Since NZ had not used this frequency for over five years most detectors have had K band deactivated.

Proposed action:

Activate K band on your detector to detect the new cameras. If quipped also activate POP mode.

Activation of the frequency will mean false alarms being detected from the likes of Petrol Station and shopping mall doors.

The benefit in reactivating K Band is that your unit will detect the Safety Warning System transmitters being installed in New Zealand and roadside speed warning signs that are often placed close to road works.

If your detector has GPS, re-read the manual and start using this useful feature to cancel out known false alarms. If your upgrading these GPS enabled units are fast becoming a must have feature.
The NEW Toyota and Mitsubishi vans of any colour are also more difficult to identify, so watch your speed and drive safe!

By TOM FITZSIMONS - The Dominion Post | Saturday, 06 December 2008

Motorists face a blitz from 43 new speed cameras - with the first due to be introduced in time for Christmas holiday traffic.

Police confirmed the cameras and conceded that more tickets would be issued. They would also be digital, meaning tickets were issued more quickly.

Police will pay almost $4 million for the cameras, one of which was being tested in Wellington's Ngauranga Gorge yesterday.

They will replace 31 mobile cameras now in use - which catch a motorist every 10 minutes on average.

The cameras, either at fixed locations or mobile ones housed in a parked van, have been used to issue more than 4.4 million tickets in the past decade, netting at least $350 million.

The new cameras are expected to be introduced between the end of the year and March.

Superintendent Paula Rose, the national road policing manager, said speed cameras had been an essential tool in moving on from the "killing fields" on the roads a generation ago. "Today we've got faster cars, we've got young people accessing fast cars ... so what a success rate."

The decision to expand the speed camera programme was part of an attempt to lower the road toll to less than 300 by 2010.

"Initially we do expect there will be an increase in tickets ... [but] any increase depends on what drivers choose to do."

Most people respected the speed limit in camera areas, Ms Rose said.

Automobile Association spokesman Simon Lambourne believed motorists supported speed cameras and the organisation would back having more.

Police Association president Greg O'Connor said officers would support an initiative to reduce the road toll. They preferred speed-camera use to having frontline staff issue tickets. "It's a good idea because obviously the relationship between police and the public is negatively impacted by the heavy ticketing campaign."

The new digital cameras are expected to process tickets about a day faster than existing ones, which take photos on film.

Police headquarters will not divulge the cost of the cameras and says the contract, provisionally awarded to Australian firm Redflex, is still being decided.

[ka34.739]

i don't think we can win unless the manufacturers make a better rd that can detect this low powered K ban radar at a longer distance

[ghz1]

i don't think we can win unless the manufacturers make a better rd that can detect this low powered K ban radar at a longer distance

Maybe a RD designed to detect that camera would help. Other than that My V1 is a better RD

[ghz1]

old Stat's eh wounder what they pan out to today???????????

Speeding crackdown -
Officer-issued speeding tickets for drivers 11-15km/h over limit.
1999 - 2312
2000- 3785
2001 - 30,836
2002 - 76,784
2003 - 139,567
2004 - 161,919


BS to that
New Zealand police.

[philnz]

Hi GHZ1

Thanks for your reply on the private mes
still cant find your old post (it was very good with all the info required)
You say that 99% of nz radar will be missed with euro on does that include the mobile stalker or just the ka cameras
cheers
phil

[ghz1]

From what I understand the stalker use 34.7 GHz the other fav is the talon that's users 35.5 GHz. Turning the V1 to euro mode will cut the scan of the V1 to no higher than 34.4 GHz so therefore the V1 will not even be looking for the stalker or the Talon which in turn would mean you are brown bread. The Ka cameras that they have down here seem to run at 34.6 GHz so you will miss them as well.
Now the reason why VR have included a euro mode to the V1 is that in Europe the majority of speed enforcement use the frequency below 34.4 GHz (Ka range 33.5 GHz to 37 GHz or so) This is much harder for your detector to detect. As in the pasted post above(from another site) when It comes to K band 24.150 GHz this is where police radar have sat for years. Radar detector makers have been able to filter out false alerts eg 24.100 GHz is a common door opener so they write code to filter it out (to a point)even less sensitivity at that freq. Now that this new K band camera is using a very low power 24.100 GHz we have a problem VR know this they know it's beening used in euro mostly so euro mode.
Just to get back to euro K band if you do set it up your 24.100 GHz detection should be a bit hotter but at the expense of main threat (demerit points) stalkers etc. So what I've have done is set my K band mutes up turn pop on and it's as good as it can get at the mo.
http://www.radardetector.net/forums/valentine-one/9972-k-band-automute-settings-walkthrough-newbies.html


Even though the euro mode section of the forum tells the readers it covers all the Ka band photo radar It's wrong it's does not cover 34.6 GHz which is the Ka camera they use in NZ. Thou these cameras are being replaced with the new k band as we know.
I came across one of these K band cam's the other day while off to Mt Hutt for a days skiing and yes not much warning but as the guy in the van left his inside light on being 6 am and dark I could see him a mile out. My .863 did very well and did alert to full when on top of the camera. It's not the end of the world it's still radar and VR will come through for us. That's why the upgrades are so important and that another reason why I'm New Zealand's biggest Zombie. It's just heaps of fun eh!!


Really at the mo the V1 is the number detector for this Country, Oh and by the way Arizona state Gov. have order a whole bunch of the very same radar camera's from Aus. Pretty sure Jim and Radar Roy are gonna have to get there teeth into it as well.

[philnz]

Thanks so much
will turn off the euro and pop on will see how it goes this weekend on my way north
yep its all fun

[Red Turbo Tegg]

Well, if it were me living where you guys are living, I'd just rock a V1 and use a plate flipper. Even if you only get a slight warning, just hit the button to flip the plate, and when your out of range, flip it back up. Just a thought.