Which undetectable detector to get?

[spartcus]

i hope its true what you say zerby... it just sucks its not easy to conceal...

BTW due to many recommendations here on the forums, i picked one up last week

Let see how it plays out with the boys in the commonwealth..

Let us know.

[pharmaboy]

i hope its true what you say zerby... it just sucks its not easy to conceal...
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portables have an advantage in concealment - you can put them in your pocket.

Anti radar detector laws usually have a section allowing the searching of cars for prohibited devices. Most leo's these days also have recording devices, and will have to tell you they are searching your vehicle for a radar dedector.

Your person, is not the vehicle - that would require different circumstances and provisions. FWIW, in quite a lot of jurisdictions, handbags and briefcases are also personal and not seacrhable without proper reason (ie if they find drugs in your car).

If you really wanted to be clever, carry a briefcase open on the floor, put the detector between the top of the passenger seat and the head restraint with a good view, and if pulled over, detector is into the briefcase and snapped shut before you even stop. Any officer asks you to open it - you flat out refuse - "confidential client information and files in there officer, no you cannot open it." when he asks, are you a lawyer, you say - " what relevance to my legal qualifications have to you right now?" .

Simple pullover, is now a careeer risk for the leo - he will search reasonably, bid you good day and leave

[Stealth Stalker]

Your person, is not the vehicle - that would require different circumstances and provisions. FWIW, in quite a lot of jurisdictions, handbags and briefcases are also personal and not seacrhable without proper reason (ie if they find drugs in your car).

Try again, F. Lee. Furtive gestures give the officer reasonable suspicion, and you WILL end up getting searched because of it, like it or not. And you won't be able to do a damn thing about it except wish you knew more about the law than what you learned watching TV.

[pharmaboy]

So how about, dont give the "furtive" gestures then?

If you cant orderly, unplug a radar detector, put it in your pocket etc, without looking like an ice addict, then dont play the game.

If any officer is aware of remote installs, it will be found very quickly. An officer cannot use a suspected radar pull over to search a person, only the vehicle, in all of the jurisdictions for which I am aware - these are across the board in australia. Check the legislation enabling radar detector searches in the area concerned.

If you are really that worried, then record the interaction with a mobile phone - not hard to do.

If an officer is prepared to flout the law in order to find evidence, then he risks the very evidence he is gaining, and secondly, he is selling his integrity down the river.

TV - LOL - dont apply your own standards to me thanks very much

[bigalinwv]

Come on SS, I'm waiting......

[dpatel01]

If you cant orderly, unplug a radar detector, put it in your pocket etc, without looking like an ice addict, then dont play the game.

Easy for a low mount, which most of us don't do here.

Don't forget to wipe of the suction cup marks and tuck the hardwire in the headliner while he's tailgating you with all his bright lights on after hitting you with instant-on while you were travelling at night and he was hiding behind a bridge or some other large opaque object.

I should stop playing the game and drive the PSL from now on.

[pharmaboy]

dpatel01 - unfortunately, in these jurisdictions you cant have the best of all worlds - you have to make compromises (ie low and accessible over high and best effectiveness). potentially you could mount onto a gps unit for instance, but generally a high mount on the screen can be seen too easily from behind, as it makes a sillouette. i've in the past either used a passenger seat mount (under head restraint), or on dash - using rubber mat to stop it sliding.

Power is ubiquitous in cars now - kids dvd players, mobile phones, laptops, ipods - hell, without a RD i'd have 3 or 4 power supplies running round my car at any time

The unseen approach from behind though isnt so easy, in fact almost impossible as you say, if you have a mount on a windscreen, which is why i havent done it personally. I've managed to get a rd depowered and on person on a couple of occasions - once was a friendly 5 minute chat on the side of the road with unit bulging in pocket - for what little experience i have counts anyway

[Stealth Stalker]

So how about, dont give the "furtive" gestures then?

If you cant orderly, unplug a radar detector, put it in your pocket etc, without looking like an ice addict, then dont play the game.

LOL! Good advice, for sure! But it's easier said than done. And I wasn't talking about an officer searching for your RD. I was talking about him searching you simply because of the furtive gestures you make while hiding it. He doesn't know what you're hiding. He just knows you're hiding something. So now you have gone from a simple speeder to a potential armed felon, and the encounter is going to go quickly downhill from there.

[jem58]

So how about, dont give the "furtive" gestures then?

If you cant orderly, unplug a radar detector, put it in your pocket etc, without looking like an ice addict, then dont play the game.

LOL! Good advice, for sure! But it's easier said than done. And I wasn't talking about an officer searching for your RD. I was talking about him searching you simply because of the furtive gestures you make while hiding it. He doesn't know what you're hiding. He just knows you're hiding something. So now you have gone from a simple speeder to a potential armed felon, and the encounter is going to go quickly downhill from there.

[pharmaboy]

Holy **** batman - potential weapon in the pocket? Fortunately its not a consideration for our LEO's. Hadnt thought that an officer would go that way in their thoughts - I would hope that where you are, the car you drive, and the way you dress would help things a little here.

Ultimately, situational awareness should be so that you dont get a sudden encounter without any warning 99% of the time - a car directly behind you that can see in the car (tinted windows perhaps?) is not the best - like most here a set of lights that approaches from behind is considered to be leo untill confirmed otherwise (great in theory I know)