GOL RADAR SHOOTOUT TEST 1/28/06

[ES13Raven]

Anyone notice how stealthjamals Escort 8500 rev 15 lacked in the Ka range?

Yeah, it seems that the rumor of the 8500 having better Ka range than the X50 is not true :shock:

[lordhamster]

I'd like to commend GOL. Your testing method IMO was much much better than the one used by SML. I'd take your results over SML results any day.

[o2bad455]

I have some video of the officer getting a jam on the stalker to!!

WHAT??? Who else was transmitting RADAR at that time? Which detector was being tested, if any?

[Mackid343]

Wow! Nice work!!!! I am disappionted in the Bel RX65 Ku-range but then again I have never seen a Ku gun....I also had a feeling that the Beltronics would dominate 35.5 and 33.8 Ka they have those frequnecies on lock down....You'd be amazed with the range I get with my 995 on local PD handheld Talon. It's really hard to declare a winner! I think alot depends on what KA radar gun you plan on seeing the most!

Anyone notice how stealthjamals Escort 8500 rev 15 lacked in the Ka range? I wonder how his X50 would of done

on that note, i got an AMAZING detection on ka yesterday. i was on my way home from church and got a weak (but constant) ka alert, but it took me to get over three medium sized hills before i saw the local cop coming the other way! definately no line of sight at all!

looks like a great test once again GOL. i was shocked by ku on the rx-65, but then again, ku doesnt really exist so i'm not worried . i'm looking foreward to the april lidar test. i cant wait to see how antilaser and the new jammers do. thanks again!

[stealthJamal]

Wow! Nice work!!!! I am disappionted in the Bel RX65 Ku-range but then again I have never seen a Ku gun....I also had a feeling that the Beltronics would dominate 35.5 and 33.8 Ka they have those frequnecies on lock down....You'd be amazed with the range I get with my 995 on local PD handheld Talon. It's really hard to declare a winner! I think alot depends on what KA radar gun you plan on seeing the most!

Anyone notice how stealthjamals Escort 8500 rev 15 lacked in the Ka range? I wonder how his X50 would of done

Yeah, my 8500 didn't do so good. Maybe it's out of tune, but most likely it's out of date. My X50 went into self cal mode a few weeks ago and ever since then it has been detecting really good.

[AirMoore]

My X50 went into self cal mode a few weeks ago and ever since then it has been detecting really good.

Good ol' "Self Cal".

[Obsidian]

Looking deeper into the results, if you just combine them by average per detector version, ignoring things like POP mode, INTL/USA, etc., you get a different perspective .... (purely averages, and non-scientific):

Ka Combined
1) Bel STI ............... 1284.33
2) V1 (3.826) ......... 1221.50
3) Bel RX-65 ........... 1201.25
4) 8500 X50 ........... 1124.00
5) V1 (3.825) .......... 1087.67
6) 8500 Original ....... 981.50
7) Bel Express 795 ... 341.00

Ka 33.8 GHz
1) Bel STI ............... 1350.00
2) Bel RX-65 ........... 1343.75
3) V1 (3.826) .......... 1211.00
4) 8500 X50 ........... 1176.00
5) V1 (3.825) .......... 1162.00
6) 8500 Original ...... 1017.00
7) Bel Express 795 ... 344.00

Ka 34.7 GHz
1) V1 (3.825) ......... 1686.00
2) V1 (3.826) ......... 1679.50
3) Bel STI ............... 1639.00
4) Bel RX-65 ........... 1464.25
5) 8500 X50 ........... 1293.00
6) 8500 Original ..... 1205.00
7) Bel Express 795 ... 493.00

Ka 35.5 GHz
1) 8500 X50 ............ 903.00
2) Bel STI ................. 864.00
3) Bel RX-65 ............. 795.75
4) V1 (3.826) ........... 774.00
5) 8500 Original ....... 722.50
6) V1 (3.825) ............ 415.00
7) Bel Express 795 ... 186.00

K 24.150
1) V1 (3.826) ......... 1835.00
2) 8500 X50 ........... 1612.00
3) V1 (3.825) ......... 1495.00
4) Bel RX-65 ........... 1449.00
5) Bel STI ............... 1252.00
6) Escort DSP ......... 1194.00
7) 8500 Original ...... 1097.50
8. Bel Express 795 .... 542.00

X 10.525
1) V1 (3.826) .......... 2928.00
2) Escort DSP .......... 2562.00
3) Bel STI ................ 2453.00
4) Bel RX-65 ............ 2277.00
5) 8500 X50 ............ 2221.00
6) 8500 Original ...... 2131.00
7) Bel Express 795 .. 1552.00

KU 13.450
1) V1 (3.826) ......... 2700.00
2) Bel RX-65 ............. 172.00

-Obsidian-

[AirMoore]

Anyone notice how stealthjamals Escort 8500 rev 15 lacked in the Ka range?

Yeah, it seems that the rumor of the 8500 having better Ka range than the X50 is not true :shock:

Yeah, well that depends... looking at the previous (2005) GOL testing, it would seem that it did have better Ka. That is the problem, everything varies day-to-day, situation to situation etc etc.

I am just wondering how-come the X50 jumped to the top of the game when it came to the 35.5 Talon...but with the rest of the Ka it didnt 33.8/34.7 it didnt run to the top? Anyone got any ideas?

[AirMoore]

Looking deeper into the results, if you just combine them by average per detector version, ignoring things like POP mode, INTL/USA, etc., you get a different perspective .... (purely averages, and non-scientific):

Ka Combined
1) Bel STI ............... 1284.33
2) V1 (3.826) ......... 1221.50
3) Bel RX-65 ........... 1201.25
4) 8500 X50 ........... 1124.00
5) V1 (3.825) .......... 1087.67
6) 8500 Original ....... 981.50
7) Bel Express 795 ... 341.00

Ka 33.8 GHz
1) Bel STI ............... 1350.00
2) Bel RX-65 ........... 1343.75
3) V1 (3.826) .......... 1211.00
4) 8500 X50 ........... 1176.00
5) V1 (3.825) .......... 1162.00
6) 8500 Original ...... 1017.00
7) Bel Express 795 ... 344.00

Ka 34.7 GHz
1) V1 (3.825) ......... 1686.00
2) V1 (3.826) ......... 1679.50
3) Bel STI ............... 1639.00
4) Bel RX-65 ........... 1464.25
5) 8500 X50 ........... 1293.00
6) 8500 Original ..... 1205.00
7) Bel Express 795 ... 493.00

Ka 35.5 GHz
1) 8500 X50 ............ 903.00
2) Bel STI ................. 864.00
3) Bel RX-65 ............. 795.75
4) V1 (3.826) ........... 774.00
5) 8500 Original ....... 722.50
6) V1 (3.825) ............ 415.00
7) Bel Express 795 ... 186.00

K 24.150
1) V1 (3.826) ......... 1835.00
2) 8500 X50 ........... 1612.00
3) V1 (3.825) ......... 1495.00
4) Bel RX-65 ........... 1449.00
5) Bel STI ............... 1252.00
6) Escort DSP ......... 1194.00
7) 8500 Original ...... 1097.50
8. Bel Express 795 .... 542.00

X 10.525
1) V1 (3.826) .......... 2928.00
2) Escort DSP .......... 2562.00
3) Bel STI ................ 2453.00
4) Bel RX-65 ............ 2277.00
5) 8500 X50 ............ 2221.00
6) 8500 Original ...... 2131.00
7) Bel Express 795 .. 1552.00

KU 13.450
1) V1 (3.826) ......... 2700.00
2) Bel RX-65 ............. 172.00

-Obsidian-

I think that is a VERY good little blurb of information Obsidian... even though not 100% scientific and there are flaws in the 'logic' persay (as you admite), I have to say it is a very good way of interpreting the data in very simplistic terms. I have to say thanks for that post!

[lordhamster]

Agreed, I was actually thinking of doing the average also.

Now the question that remains in my mind is this.... Were these tests done one run only, or were multiple runs done per detector per gun?