Objective professional reviews?

[The Chariot]

I stand corrected. The remark does stand though for the SE RDs, as they have been shown to perform better with pop off.

Shown where? Is there test data supporting this? Link?

Get the admins to reindex the database for 2 letter searches (QT and IO) and I can post links to videos of QT testing with it.

[djrams80]

Get the admins to reindex the database for 2 letter searches (QT and IO) and I can post links to videos of QT testing with it.

The Whistlers performed admirably at GoL during I/O testing, with pop turned on. I don't think they could have done much better. I tested the Whistlers for a month in the real world with pop turned off and it didn't seem to help any.

[snoopyc4]

Get the admins to reindex the database for 2 letter searches (QT and IO) and I can post links to videos of QT testing with it.

This?

http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...-q-t-test.html

What would be more valuable would be a C/O test comparing POP ON vs. OFF.

[The Chariot]

Get the admins to reindex the database for 2 letter searches (QT and IO) and I can post links to videos of QT testing with it.

The Whistlers performed admirably at GoL during I/O testing, with pop turned on. I don't think they could have done much better. I tested the Whistlers for a month in the real world with pop turned off and it didn't seem to help any.

http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...-q-t-test.html
(Edit- lol, looks like someone else found the same thread and posted moments before I did)

They caught I/O, overall, in fewer milliseconds with POP-Off. Of course you tried to pick apart that test as well.

Seems Stealth Stalker is fairly objective about them:
http://www.radardetector.net/forums/610788-post3.html

[The Chariot]

Edit - not needed, already said it above.

[djrams80]

http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...-q-t-test.html
(Edit- lol, looks like someone else found the same thread and posted moments before I did)

They caught I/O, overall, in fewer milliseconds with POP-Off. Of course you tried to pick apart that test as well.

Seems Stealth Stalker is fairly objective about them:
http://www.radardetector.net/forums/610788-post3.html

I'm not picking any test apart. Those videos show that the Whistler performs better against Q/T with pop off. The Whistlers already performed well against our I/O test criteria, so those are clearly not the results that are being questioned by the Whistler zombies. Let's test to find out if pop off on the Whistler SEs improves C/O performance or not.

Also, Stealth Stalker's comments are anything but objective. He doesn't like Belscort products and has been clear as day about that. As far as I know, he has never used anything other than a V1 in the real world. It's his opinion that responsiveness is more important that sensitivity. Based upon what I've seen using both Belscorts and Whistlers against many real world encounters, I disagree, whole-heartedly.

[The Chariot]

Also, Stealth Stalker's comments are anything but objective.

Sig worthy.

[Stealth Stalker]

LOL! Well, we all have our bias for one reason or another. The only thing that separates us all is what our bias is and why we have it. My bias is for whatever performs best under the conditions that I regularly face. Consequently, what strikes me as "best" for me isn't necessarily going to jibe with someone -- as was pointed out earlier -- in a totally different part of the country or world. But I would maintain that, aside from regional priorities, my observations and opinions are indeed "objective". I don't give a rat's arse if Mike V or Belscort or Whistler make another cent or not. There's nothing in it for me either way.

Is responsiveness more important to me than raw sensitivity? You bet it is! Because there isn't a dimes difference between the top tier detectors raw sensitivity. Any of them have more than adequate range to save you in any straight-on c/o encounter. The only significant difference between them is the conditions under which they excel. Hills, curves, and instant-on are the three parameters that separate the best from the also-rans. And when someone gives you an opinion on detectors that totally ignores those parameters, they are doing you a serious disservice. Are they being less than objective? Not necessarily. They may simply be ignorant to the existence or importance of them. So let's not get carried away throwing this "unobjective" label around here.

The fact remains that, all things considered (except for stealth), I find more to like about the Whistlers than the Belscorts. Are they perfect? No. Djrams80 has very well documented their shortcomings, and I believe objectively so. But in the land where I/O rules with an iron fist, I'd still take one over even a Redline.

[djrams80]

LOL! Well, we all have our bias for one reason or another. The only thing that separates us all is what our bias is and why we have it. My bias is for whatever performs best under the conditions that I regularly face. Consequently, what strikes me as "best" for me isn't necessarily going to jibe with someone -- as was pointed out earlier -- in a totally different part of the country or world. But I would maintain that, aside from regional priorities, my observations and opinions are indeed "objective". I don't give a rat's arse if Mike V or Belscort or Whistler make another cent or not. There's nothing in it for me either way.

Is responsiveness more important to me than raw sensitivity? You bet it is! Because there isn't a dimes difference between the top tier detectors raw sensitivity. Any of them have more than adequate range to save you in any straight-on c/o encounter. The only significant difference between them is the conditions under which they excel. Hills, curves, and instant-on are the three parameters that separate the best from the also-rans. And when someone gives you an opinion on detectors that totally ignores those parameters, they are doing you a serious disservice. Are they being less than objective? Not necessarily. They may simply be ignorant to the existence or importance of them. So let's not get carried away throwing this "unobjective" label around here.

The fact remains that, all things considered (except for stealth), I find more to like about the Whistlers than the Belscorts. Are they perfect? No. Djrams80 has very well documented their shortcomings, and I believe objectively so. But in the land where I/O rules with an iron fist, I'd still take one over even a Redline.

I'd bet every penny that I own that a RedLine would pickup a much higher percentage of those I/O shots than any Whistler.

[Stealth Stalker]

I'd bet every penny that I own that a RedLine would pickup a much higher percentage of those I/O shots than any Whistler.

And I don't seriously doubt that. I have never tested a Redline myself. Like most here, I'm at the mercy of what is presented here by devoted members like yourself. From there, I attempt to extrapolate what that means to me and my driving. That's what this forum is all about.