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    Default Questions about K and Ka alerts

    Im about to pull the trigger on a 9500ix. (yes, i know there are better long range detectors like redline, but i think for me the 9500ix is the best option)

    I have been searching and reading thread after thread on here about false K and Ka alerts and cant seem to find the answers im looking for.

    How do you spot falses on these bands? (i dont care about X, no one uses it here)

    From my understanding, there are few, if any Ka falses. From my reading, i have learned that the Cobra detectors leak Ka. So, how do i tell if a Ka alert im getting is from a Cobra detector or another source?

    does anyone have like a list of frequencies that will pop up on my detector on K and Ka band that are known falses? or a list of all the known true sources? it seems to me that since the display on the detector will show the frequency that i should be able to determine if its a true bogey or not.

    im trying to learn how to use and read the detector, IMHO without knowing this, as far as im concerned, its probably just a useless piece of electronics hanging off my windshield.

    i want to know how to use it.

    thanks in advance for any and all info.
    Last edited by gtnos; 03-28-2012 at 08:45 PM.

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    Default Re: Questions about K and Ka alerts

    Quote Originally Posted by gtnos View Post
    Im about to pull the trigger on a 9500ix. (yes, i know there are better long range detectors like redline, but i think for me the 9500ix is the best option)

    I have been searching and reading thread after thread on here about false K and Ka alerts and cant seem to find the answers im looking for.

    How do you spot falses on these bands? (i dont care about X, no one uses it here)

    From my understanding, there are few, if any Ka falses. From my reading, i have learned that the Cobra detectors leak Ka. So, how do i tell if a Ka alert im getting is from a Cobra detector or another source?

    does anyone have like a list of frequencies that will pop up on my detector on K and Ka band that are known falses? or a list of all the known true sources? it seems to me that since the display on the detector will show the frequency that i should be able to determine if its a true bogey or not.

    im trying to learn how to use and read the detector, IMHO without knowing this, as far as im concerned, its probably just a useless piece of electronics hanging off my windshield.

    i want to know how to use it.

    thanks in advance for any and all info.
    The only real way to identify a false is to see it and recognize it. Also, with a little experience with your detector, you will know how it reacts to alerts. After a while it is not that hard but it always a pain specially in unknown territory. If you go ahead with the 9500IX it will solve most of your problems in your day to day drive as after a few drive-by it will automatically lock out the falses.

    With the Redline or 9500IX you won't have problems with False Ka. I don't think giving you the frequencies will really help because 99.9% of your falses will be on K band and X band and K band is only 100mhz wide. It means that a false frequency will be extremely close to a real encounter frequency. As comparison, Ka is 1300mhz wide.

    Falses don't last too long, maybe a few hundred feet and it is fairly easy to locate the cause of it. If you are the only car on the freeway in the middle of the desert, chances are it won't be a false. Now, drive in NYC and you will probably toss your detector out the window if you drive there for the first time. Just putting your detector in City No X mode will greatly help reducing the falses.

    Where I live, on highway mode I have 5 falses on the way to work. With City No X I have 2. More or less 50% reduction
    Last edited by AvsBest; 03-28-2012 at 10:29 PM.

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    Default Re: Questions about K and Ka alerts

    Quote Originally Posted by AvsBest View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gtnos View Post
    Im about to pull the trigger on a 9500ix. (yes, i know there are better long range detectors like redline, but i think for me the 9500ix is the best option)

    I have been searching and reading thread after thread on here about false K and Ka alerts and cant seem to find the answers im looking for.

    How do you spot falses on these bands? (i dont care about X, no one uses it here)

    From my understanding, there are few, if any Ka falses. From my reading, i have learned that the Cobra detectors leak Ka. So, how do i tell if a Ka alert im getting is from a Cobra detector or another source?

    does anyone have like a list of frequencies that will pop up on my detector on K and Ka band that are known falses? or a list of all the known true sources? it seems to me that since the display on the detector will show the frequency that i should be able to determine if its a true bogey or not.

    im trying to learn how to use and read the detector, IMHO without knowing this, as far as im concerned, its probably just a useless piece of electronics hanging off my windshield.

    i want to know how to use it.

    thanks in advance for any and all info.
    The only real way to identify a false is to see it and recognize it. Also, with a little experience with your detector, you will know how it reacts to alerts. After a while it is not that hard but it always a pain specially in unknown territory. If you go ahead with the 9500IX it will solve most of your problems in your day to day drive as after a few drive-by it will automatically lock out the falses.

    With the Redline or 9500IX you won't have problems with False Ka. I don't think giving you the frequencies will really help because 99.9% of your falses will be on K band and X band and K band is only 100mhz wide. It means that a false frequency will be extremely close to a real encounter frequency. As comparison, Ka is 1300mhz wide.

    Falses don't last too long, maybe a few hundred feet and it is fairly easy to locate the cause of it. If you are the only car on the freeway in the middle of the desert, chances are it won't be a false. Now, drive in NYC and you will probably toss your detector out the window if you drive there for the first time. Just putting your detector in City No X mode will greatly help reducing the falses.

    Where I live, on highway mode I have 5 falses on the way to work. With City No X I have 2. More or less 50% reduction
    thanks. thats the reason i decided to go with the 9500ix, as i want less falses more than more range (redline) and i like the autolock feature. since the wife will be using it too, i need a detector that learns the falses on its own and is simple to use. i know Live gives you all that on a redline, and while Live is cool and all, and i plan on getting it with the 9500ix to try it, i doubt that I ( and know my wife) wont want to hook up the cell phone and start the app and all that crap every time we drive the car. for long trips or heading into the city or places we dont normally drive is where i would most likely use live. I know for a fact that the cops where i normally drive only use stalker duals and have no lidar. so recognizing ka alerts is the main thing.

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    Default Re: Questions about K and Ka alerts

    Something to think about, a weak alarm is just a heads up for me because I have a different way of thinking. That is, false alarms are ok if given in a manner to the operator to where he/she can handle it. To many falses, not good, to much filtering , not good. Experience is the key with a programmed RD set for priority alarms so you do not have to think is the way that I like a RD. With your new 9500ix, you can lock out the false after a couple of runs thru that spot and be done with it. You will learn the RD over time.....

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    Default Re: Questions about K and Ka alerts

    Easiest way to detect Ka band falses is to put your RD in spec mode so that you can see the frequency of the signal. This won't help much with X and K band falses, but LEOs use 33.8, 34.7, and 35.5 GHz Ka bands. Signals outside of that range are generally pollutants from cheap radar detectors.

 

 

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