The Great POP Debate Revisited

[crisptito]

Day in and day out POP settings seem to be one of the hottest topics in the V1 forum (and for that matter, with other detectors too). When I bought my V1 last December, I expected exceptional detection and so far I have not been dissapointed. I was however bothered by those annoying "J-outs" that more times than not scared the hell out of me when on open interstate. Visiting the forum, it looked like the majority of V1 users recommended that you turn off POP to reduce J-outs. I did this and have not had one since January. But at what cost........

Recently there have been some posts on here about POP off reducing range of Ka detection. HappyA$$ posted that he had turned POP on and as a result the V1 was alerting before his 9500ci. ProudNMAmember posted that turning POP on has increased his off axis Ka detection, especially with 33.8.

So, is the tide turning on the generally accepted V1 settings to turn POP back on? GOL did tests back in 2007 which showed only a gain of 12 feet with POP on vs POP off with all bands turned on. The detection range increased as bands were turned off (X off and K off, POP On gave 63 more feet than all bands on, POP off).

I guess it boils down to whether the increased range is signficiant enough to deal with J-out cobras? The only knock I have on my V1 is that it is not as sensitive as I would like it to be on Ka, especially off-axis. I have had a string of recent Ka encounters where my eyes are visibly seeing the LEO before the V1 alerts to it. Maybe distances less than 1/2 a mile. So until V1 updates the design of the horn, do you guys forsee turning POP back on? I am going to test for month and see how it goes.

[Buz]

[FoolishOne]

It's SODA not POP!

[Suf Daddy]

No idea, but you can rent a Z-35 w/POP from me to check it out on your RD.

-Suf

[OldGoat]

Yes (but I live in the country)
and
I already have

[Buz]

Well after reading this original post and feeling the same way myself, I decided to turn POP on today for my 30 mile drive home from work. Well now I know why I turned the f**kin thing off 3 years ago....
THREE, yes three falses, 2 of them with instant "J" outs. (and yes, my Ka guard is on)

With POP off I get a "J" maybe once every 6 weeks or so.
Today after activating POP, I get 2 "J"'s and another false within 40 minutes.

Just for the heck of it, I'm going to try to leave POP on for one week and see if I notice earlier warnings of real Ka threats; I sure hope I don't.

[v1user]

Well after reading this original post and feeling the same way myself, I decided to turn POP on today for my 30 mile drive home from work. Well now I know why I turned the f**kin thing off 3 years ago....
THREE, yes three falses, 2 of them with instant "J" outs. (and yes, my Ka guard is on)

With POP off I get a "J" maybe once every 6 weeks or so.
Today after activating POP, I get 2 "J"'s and another false within 40 minutes.

Just for the heck of it, I'm going to try to leave POP on for one week and see if I notice earlier warnings of real Ka threats; I sure hope I don't.

The amount of j-outs just depends on how much crapola is in your area(you must have a lot) I have POP and and get about 1 j-out every 2 months. Usually the source is always located. I've notices the v1 does better with quick trigger with POP on.

[languy99]

also remember that some V1s are much more sensative to J'outs. I drive 120miles each day to and from work and I get 1 J out a month, average. While I have seen other do it by just looking at it the wrong way.

[Buz]

also remember that some V1s are much more sensative to J'outs. I drive 120miles each day to and from work and I get 1 J out a month, average. While I have seen other do it by just looking at it the wrong way.

....which makes me wonder if VR has improved the falsing with POP on over the years. My version is 3.826 which is an early version of POP. I wonder if as the revisions continue, VR is getting a handle on falsing with POP on?

[milkman]

also remember that some V1s are much more sensative to J'outs. I drive 120miles each day to and from work and I get 1 J out a month, average. While I have seen other do it by just looking at it the wrong way.

....which makes me wonder if VR has improved the falsing with POP on over the years. My version is 3.826 which is an early version of POP. I wonder if as the revisions continue, VR is getting a handle on falsing with POP on?

I hope they have and now i am going to try my V1 with POP on. I sure would like alittle more range to.