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    Default Does disabling POP also disable Q/T?

    I just read this article:
    Veil Guy: How to quiet-down your Valentine One without giving up performance

    So.. I know POP is rarely used, but Q/T is used more and more. If I disable POP detection, will I also be disabling Q/T detection?

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    Default Re: Does disabling POP also disable Q/T?

    95% of the time the v1 will pick up QT with POP off.

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    Default Re: Does disabling POP also disable Q/T?

    QT and pop are 2 different things. Disabling pop will not help or hurt QT detection on the V1. Many have experienced no POP falsing leaving POP on with the 3.872 version (myself included). So I would say why not just keep pop on if it isnt causing falsing, since its a feature you paid for.

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    Default Re: Does disabling POP also disable Q/T?

    Quote Originally Posted by Freebird View Post
    QT and pop are 2 different things. Disabling pop will not help or hurt QT detection on the V1. Many have experienced no POP falsing leaving POP on with the 3.872 version (myself included). So I would say why not just keep pop on if it isnt causing falsing, since its a feature you paid for.
    Well, after looking at a few of GOL's tests, it could be a possibility that leaving POP on will decrease overall sensitivity of the V1. I'm not stating any facts, but if POP isn't being used anymore, wouldn't it be a better idea to just leave it off?

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    Default Re: Does disabling POP also disable Q/T?

    Those were test on a different version than the latest V1. What version do you have? I believe happya$$ said his V1 works better with pop on. Ask him about it if you have a 3.872. Also GOL tested 8 varieties of the V1 this year, dont know if they compared pop on to pop off but their results will be up in a few weeks. I have always run mine with pop off since it is not used in my area either, but I did run POP on from Dallas to Southern Cal a couple weeks ago and didnt notice a differance in performance.
    Last edited by Freebird; 09-01-2009 at 03:32 PM.

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    Default Re: Does disabling POP also disable Q/T?

    I currently have a 9500ix that I am trying to sell due to its inability to detect I/O & Q/T, as well as terrible signal ramp up. Haven't actually bought the V1 detector yet (waiting for some GOL Redline vs V1 reviews to come out) but the more I read about the V1, the more I want it.

    Only things that leave doubt in my mind is the falsing from breaklights (I believe from Infinities) and the fact that the V1 is detectable by RDD's.
    Last edited by Zero187; 09-01-2009 at 03:51 PM.

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    Default Re: Does disabling POP also disable Q/T?

    V1 is very detectable against RDD'S. We are hoping the Redlne will pick up QT and instant on better than the current Belscort models do. Will have to wait till someone test this to know forsure. Is being undetectable a necessity, or just a preferance?

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    Default Re: Does disabling POP also disable Q/T?

    Quote Originally Posted by Freebird View Post
    V1 is very detectable against RDD'S. We are hoping the Redlne will pick up QT and instant on better than the current Belscort models do. Will have to wait till someone test this to know forsure. Is being undetectable a necessity, or just a preferance?
    Preference, but I would like to be able to test two detectors next to each other and I know I can't if they are leaking radar emissions. Thanks for your suggestions, I will have to wait for the Redline reviews in that case.. I wish Escort would hurry up already! I guess time will tell.
    Last edited by Zero187; 09-01-2009 at 04:35 PM.

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    Default Re: Does disabling POP also disable Q/T?

    Quote Originally Posted by Freebird View Post
    QT and pop are 2 different things. Disabling pop will not help or hurt QT detection on the V1. Many have experienced no POP falsing leaving POP on with the 3.872 version (myself included). So I would say why not just keep pop on if it isnt causing falsing, since its a feature you paid for.
    Now that can't be right. There is no way POP detection does not slow down response on the non-POP freqencies unless Valentine put two detectors inside of one. Did they scrap the Interleave Sweep method for something else?

    The latest tests I've seen (2006) show a significant increase in response times on 34.7 and 35.5 with POP activated.

    I'd say leave POP off if you want the best possible reaction times to Quick Triggers on the above two frequencies.

    POP will obviously improve reaction times on the POP Freq's of 24.15 and 33.8 if you are QT'd.
    Last edited by nine_c1; 09-01-2009 at 11:11 PM.

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    Default Re: Does disabling POP also disable Q/T?

    Quote Originally Posted by nine_c1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Freebird View Post
    QT and pop are 2 different things. Disabling pop will not help or hurt QT detection on the V1. Many have experienced no POP falsing leaving POP on with the 3.872 version (myself included). So I would say why not just keep pop on if it isnt causing falsing, since its a feature you paid for.
    Now that can't be right. There is no way POP detection does not slow down response on the non-POP freqencies unless Valentine put two detectors inside of one. Did they scrap the Interleave Sweep method for something else?

    The latest tests I've seen (2006) show a significant increase in response times on 34.7 and 35.5 with POP activated.

    I'd say leave POP off if you want the best possible reaction times to Quick Triggers on the above two frequencies.

    POP will obviously improve reaction times on the POP Freq's of 24.15 and 33.8 if you are QT'd.
    I got this answer form Pete at V1:

    "Dear Sir:

    Thanks for your note. Activating or deactivating POP has absolutely no impact on sweep rate for K or Ka.

    None whatsoever.

    Cordially,"


    He did not however expand on what POP is doing when activated.

 

 

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