Actual information about new V1

[chrisridebike8]

I would love to have a separate display to let me know what the frequency is rather any gps feature. and of course spectre immunity...

[mrkookm]

So what we have is a company who is just tossing crap out for the consumer to work the bugs out of for them and calling it "progress". I call it premature ejaculation, and the consumer is the one getting spooged.

I'm happy to wait until Mike releases something that he KNOWS is ready for prime time.

My thinking as well.

Someone needs to give belscort a run for there money, but no one is willing to try.

LOL! I think they are already giving themselves a run for their own money. Have you seen the product lineup lately? They are running so fast in the sake of progress as you say that they can't even get ONE of their current product fully up to par to cover all areas of RD enforcement tactics .

Until then I'll remain with my complacent V wonder. At least we ALL know 4 things are certain: its consistent; it works well across the board; if a product appears it will be correct and it will not be pulled off the market because of "lack of sales" or for any other BS excuse for that matter.

[AirMoore]

This thread is still going huh? Well I might as well add this since not a single thing that has been said (or as importantly done) in here (that) hasn't been said 5+ times by forum members before (Just me alone... I've said most everything in here before)...

So here:



There... NOW the thread is productive... carry on minions.

[bigalinwv]

So what we have is a company who is just tossing crap out for the consumer to work the bugs out of for them and calling it "progress". I call it premature ejaculation, and the consumer is the one getting spooged.

I'm happy to wait until Mike releases something that he KNOWS is ready for prime time.

My thinking as well.

Someone needs to give belscort a run for there money, but no one is willing to try.

LOL! I think they are already giving themselves a run for their own money. Have you seen the product lineup lately? They are running so fast in the sake of progress as you say that they can't even get ONE of their current product fully up to par to cover all areas of RD enforcement tactics .

Until then I'll remain with my complacent V wonder. At least we ALL know 4 things are certain: its consistent; it works well across the board; if a product appears it will be correct and it will not be pulled off the market because of "lack of sales" or for any other BS excuse for that matter.

The problem with zombies is that it only leaves two outcomes if Mike doesn't do anything:
1. Belscort uses arrows, V1 loses sales, bankruptcy
2. The V1 will have to be sold at a lower price.

I know what all of us experienced people will say, but the fact of the matter is that 98.5% of RD consumers know as much about them as LEOs do. So the "sensitivity" and "QT" ability don't matter to 98.5% of people. So that does NOT drive sales. The ONLY thing that does is the arrows. Sad, but true.

I admit I am a Belscort fan (yes, knowing the problems), but I WANT Mike to give them a run, but I don't see it happening.

[Stealth Stalker]

I know what all of us experienced people will say, but the fact of the matter is that 98.5% of RD consumers know as much about them as LEOs do. So the "sensitivity" and "QT" ability don't matter to 98.5% of people. So that does NOT drive sales. The ONLY thing that does is the arrows. Sad, but true.

I admit I am a Belscort fan (yes, knowing the problems), but I WANT Mike to give them a run, but I don't see it happening.

Very true. I'm a "fan" of whoever makes the best detector for me. I'll buy it from Iran, if they make it! My loyalty is to my driver licence, and nothing else. But you're absolutely right, competition is a big plus for the consumer.

It's just a shame that RD sales are so heavily driven by marketing hype, and not real performance factors. Not that I care who sells what. And, for that matter, I'm perfectly fine with the uneducated getting pwnt. But damn, like everyone else here, I'd sure like to have "it all" in one package, instead of having to decide which factors I will compromise when I buy an RD.

[bigalinwv]

I know what all of us experienced people will say, but the fact of the matter is that 98.5% of RD consumers know as much about them as LEOs do. So the "sensitivity" and "QT" ability don't matter to 98.5% of people. So that does NOT drive sales. The ONLY thing that does is the arrows. Sad, but true.

I admit I am a Belscort fan (yes, knowing the problems), but I WANT Mike to give them a run, but I don't see it happening.

Very true. I'm a "fan" of whoever makes the best detector for me. I'll buy it from Iran, if they make it! My loyalty is to my driver licence, and nothing else. But you're absolutely right, competition is a big plus for the consumer.

It's just a shame that RD sales are so heavily driven by marketing hype, and not real performance factors. Not that I care who sells what. And, for that matter, I'm perfectly fine with the uneducated getting pwnt. But damn, like everyone else here, I'd sure like to have "it all" in one package, instead of having to decide which factors I will compromise when I buy an RD.

That is a sad fact. Look at all the idiots buying "15 band" radar detectors. They probably believe that a V1 or Belscort only picking up "4 bands" means they aren't as good.

[<<JAZZY>>]

So what we have is a company who is just tossing crap out for the consumer to work the bugs out of for them and calling it "progress". I call it premature ejaculation, and the consumer is the one getting spooged.

I'm happy to wait until Mike releases something that he KNOWS is ready for prime time.

My thinking as well.

Someone needs to give belscort a run for there money, but no one is willing to try.

LOL! I think they are already giving themselves a run for their own money. Have you seen the product lineup lately? They are running so fast in the sake of progress as you say that they can't even get ONE of their current product fully up to par to cover all areas of RD enforcement tactics .

Until then I'll remain with my complacent V wonder. At least we ALL know 4 things are certain: its consistent; it works well across the board; if a product appears it will be correct and it will not be pulled off the market because of "lack of sales" or for any other BS excuse for that matter.

The problem with zombies is that it only leaves two outcomes if Mike doesn't do anything:
1. Belscort uses arrows, V1 loses sales, bankruptcy
2. The V1 will have to be sold at a lower price.

I know what all of us experienced people will say, but the fact of the matter is that 98.5&#37; of RD consumers know as much about them as LEOs do. So the "sensitivity" and "QT" ability don't matter to 98.5&#37; of people. So that does NOT drive sales. The ONLY thing that does is the arrows. Sad, but true.

I admit I am a Belscort fan (yes, knowing the problems), but I WANT Mike to give them a run, but I don't see it happening.

I am not sure that Valentine Research will lose sales or have to lower their price. You know if Belscort adds another antenna and arrows, their price will probably be jacked up to $600 which means that a $399 V1 will still be a great price. On top of that, who in here believes that Belscort can add arrows and that they will work correctly instead of everybody being a guinea pig for Belscort. I put my trust in Mike Valentine and the V1 because he has been using multiple antennas and arrows since 1998.

[bigalinwv]

So what we have is a company who is just tossing crap out for the consumer to work the bugs out of for them and calling it "progress". I call it premature ejaculation, and the consumer is the one getting spooged.

I'm happy to wait until Mike releases something that he KNOWS is ready for prime time.

My thinking as well.

Someone needs to give belscort a run for there money, but no one is willing to try.

LOL! I think they are already giving themselves a run for their own money. Have you seen the product lineup lately? They are running so fast in the sake of progress as you say that they can't even get ONE of their current product fully up to par to cover all areas of RD enforcement tactics .

Until then I'll remain with my complacent V wonder. At least we ALL know 4 things are certain: its consistent; it works well across the board; if a product appears it will be correct and it will not be pulled off the market because of "lack of sales" or for any other BS excuse for that matter.

The problem with zombies is that it only leaves two outcomes if Mike doesn't do anything:
1. Belscort uses arrows, V1 loses sales, bankruptcy
2. The V1 will have to be sold at a lower price.

I know what all of us experienced people will say, but the fact of the matter is that 98.5&#37; of RD consumers know as much about them as LEOs do. So the "sensitivity" and "QT" ability don't matter to 98.5&#37; of people. So that does NOT drive sales. The ONLY thing that does is the arrows. Sad, but true.

I admit I am a Belscort fan (yes, knowing the problems), but I WANT Mike to give them a run, but I don't see it happening.

I am not sure that Valentine Research will lose sales or have to lower their price. You know if Belscort adds another antenna and arrows, their price will probably be jacked up to $600 which means that a $399 V1 will still be a great price. On top of that, who in here believes that Belscort can add arrows and that they will work correctly instead of everybody being a guinea pig for Belscort. I put my trust in Mike Valentine and the V1 because he has been using multiple antennas and arrows since 1998.

Maybe that will keep the bean counters at Belscort from jacking it up. The ONLY reason their prices suck is because they have no competition when it comes to adding features that the AVERAGE person wants. Once the patent is up for arrows, it's Katy bar the door.

We can talk all day about the problems with TrueLock, AutoLearn, etc., BUT again I say that 98.5% of the buyers buy the RD, plug it in, and that's the end of the story. I personally like the Truelock feature, and use it daily. I have, knock on wood, never had a problem with it. BUT I am not the average buyer. I would say the average buyer wouldn't know if they had a problem. H3LL, the average buyer thinks a radar detector should go off every time you see a LEO.

[CJR238]

I paid $400 for arrows, $1600 for 9500ix features with an M3 antenna, and another $500 for "multiple signals detected" voice alert and high mount M3 sensitivity. Anything under $2500 with all those features ill be happy.
Perfection is not easy to have, unless your willing to pay. VR will still make the V1 the way it is at the same price as always. They will just sell less and less until they have less and less buyers.

[AirMoore]

Echo... eeccchhooooooo... eeeecccchhhhhhoooooooooooo.


Sorry, sounds like everything here has been said before... lulz!