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    Default Tryin to love my V1... It's growin on me

    Upgraded to a V1 from a x50 last Friday and so far mixed feelings.

    I really do miss the Expert display of the X50 big time. With that display, I could easily see what was normal and what was not and see signal strengths of each individual threat. The Bogey counter is better than nothing, but since I'm still getting used to it, I have to look at it a bit longer and decode what is being displayed (mainly due to the fact my arrows and bogey counter go nuts when I'm within 0.5 mile of an area with 2 or more automatic doors).

    Also, in areas I used to get 2 falses with my X50, I get 4 to 6 with the V1 even though there really are only 2 falses. It gets really annoying when sometimes I drive by and I get 4 falses, then other times I get 5 or 6. Disabling POP cures this and I only get 2 falses like there should be.

    Sound wise, I like the V1 better, I like the audible alert you here when another threat is sensed, but it also is anoying when I'm at the grocery store and the bogey counter is randomly cycling from 3 to 9 bogeys 1000000 times a second.

    My X50 falsed maybe 5 times from random unknown sources the whole time I had it. NEVER had a Ka False, and had the usual X and K falses from known falses consistently distance and number wise. My V1 seams kinda random at times. I have gotten 1 laser false (No laser in the area I was in) and numerous X and K falses. I get the occasional Ka, but not bad. The X falsing is soooooo horrible I disabled X band (Although I feel I shouldnt have to).

    Distance and sensitivity wise, I am not impressed with the V1. I have my unit just below the rearview mirror with the mirror shoved all the way up to the headliner. So far this has given the best results. I had the unit to the left of the mirror for a while, but my arrows and bogey counter seamed to freak out whenever I got near any false sources. With the unit below the mirror, it is only 1 inch lower than it was before and I used a level to make sure the unit is level.

    I had a Ka coming towards me yesturday and got an estimated .3 miles of range from initial alert to where I thought the LEO would have been. The v1 didnt go full tilt until I was about 50 feet away form the LEO.

    Today, I was in an area with 2 known falses @ 25 MPH (my V1 shows 3 to 5 in this area with POP on) and my bogey counter went nuts as usual and my signal strength was 1 to 3 units. I passed this area but my V1 still showed 2 for K band strength. I look up and saw a LEO 50 feet in front of me on the side of the road pointing his gun straight at me (only car in the road also) and my V1 never showed more than 2 units of signal strength and quickly dismissed this about 25 feet after I passed him.

    Last night, I was in town in an area known for constant on Ka. My X50 would sense the LEO about .5 to .6 miles away on this stretch of road going towards it and about .3 miles going away from it. There is always a LEO there at night using constant on Ka, but I didnt figure there was one there last night because my V1 did not go off until 0.2 miles away. I figured he was using instant on instead, so I went back and waited till a train of cars were in front of me for about 1 mile, I went down the same stretch and didnt receive anything till .2 miles again. I went back the way I came this time and got the Ka about .1 miles behind him going towards him and I got about .3 miles of range going away from him..... Also, even with the Ka on more responsive, my signal strength didnt ramp up until I was close enough to the LEO to see the donut sprinkles on his shirt. I repeated the test several more times with different programmed settings and I got similar results. Turning POP on and off only reduced false alerts on my way home, didnt do squat for range.

    I'm hoping I'm just getting poor test scenarios for the V1, but so far my V1 is less than par distance and sensitivity wise to my old Cobra 9300 which also falsed much less on X and K.

    I'll give it another week, hopefully I can get some good results. I know Valentine doesnt have so many strong supporters due to poor range and false alerts. The display confusion will be solved with time, but the distance thing is really troubling me to the point where I dont feel safe going 5 MPH over anymore and really isn't that what I paid $400 for?

    EDIT: Adv Logic mode solves a lot of my X and K problems, but with the X50, I could leave it on Highway all the time and not be overly annoyed. Also all the scenarios listed above where on flat straight roads with no hills, curves, or dips. I have yet to have a highway encounter with the v1, my x50 in same location would give 1 to 3 miles of warning

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    I'll give it another week, hopefully I can get some good results. I know Valentine doesnt have so many strong supporters due to poor range and false alerts. The display confusion will be solved with time, but the distance thing is really troubling me to the point where I dont feel safe going 5 MPH over anymore and really isn't that what I paid $400 for?

    where do you come up with the supporter figures. there are many V1 fans (zombies, me included). i have had very good results with the V1, i had an x50 prior to the V1 and id say they are very comperable to eachother in detection range in radar, given a few exceptions. The display may be a little daunting at first but once you get used to it, you love it...i do at least, i think the V1 display is very good. I dont even look at the band indicator lights, i just listen to the sound of the alert and the arrows. i get 2+ miles on a stationary K band sign and the same if not more on Ka. What are your settings on your V1? Hope it works out for you, the V1 is a very good detector, along with the x50 and the rx65.

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    I have great range with my V1 and little falses

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    Sorry about that, you miss understood what I was saying. I was being sarcastic. I know Valentine has lots and lots of diehard supporters due to top of the line reference standard performance (main reason I went with v1).

    I'm getting used to the V1 display gradually and starting to like it more and more. Could be a lot more clear though. I'm modding my remote display tomarrow so this should help lots. I use the sounds a lot, but I use the display to locate, but that is hard to do when the blinking arrow constantly is switching around and the strongest signal constantly flips from X to K then briefly to Ka.

    I realize the excessive false alerts are a trade off for more sensitivity, but so far I havent seen the increase over my X50 (Hopefully that changes).

    Currently my settings are back to stock with the exception that X band is turned off. I've never seen an Xband radar in my entire life where I live so I dont think I need it. This has cut down false alerts DRASTICALLY. I had POP disabled for a bit, but I talked to my friend who is a local cop and he says POP is becoming more POPular for pulling over suspected drunk drivers and drugged drivers in areas near me (Drunk/Drugged driving is a popular past time where I live).

    havent messed around with the b thru g settings yet.

    one question though, What is your experiance with the KA false Alert Guard? is this setting to toggle the "J" function?

    My girlfriend is using my old Cobra 9300 and I havent gotten any falses from that and havent gotten any J'd out alerts yet from people with cheap detectors. I really dont know if that is a good thing or a bad thing.

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    Give it a week and then send it in if this continues. I had some issues with mine, from the start (somewhat similiar to yours), and this is what I did (actually I didnt wait a week because I needed a scratch [on the inside of the unit] on it to be fixed anyways). I still have my X50, and my X50 (front detection) was owning the V1. Honestly you really shouldnt get mind blowing range over the X50...they wont be that far off in most real life scenarios.... and all Top-3 are normally really close for that matter.


    I personally am waiting to recieve my unit from UPS... I missed the delivery yesterday because for some off reason they came at 10:45ish when they have never ... ever ... came before noon. So Iwill probably get mine wensday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyVOLVOrob
    I have great range with my V1 and little falses
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    Default Re: Tryin to love my V1... It's growin on me

    Quote Originally Posted by SPL15
    Upgraded to a V1 from a x50 last Friday and so far mixed feelings.

    I really do miss the Expert display of the X50 big time. With that display, I could easily see what was normal and what was not and see signal strengths of each individual threat. The Bogey counter is better than nothing, but since I'm still getting used to it, I have to look at it a bit longer and decode what is being displayed (mainly due to the fact my arrows and bogey counter go nuts when I'm within 0.5 mile of an area with 2 or more automatic doors).

    Also, in areas I used to get 2 falses with my X50, I get 4 to 6 with the V1 even though there really are only 2 falses. It gets really annoying when sometimes I drive by and I get 4 falses, then other times I get 5 or 6. Disabling POP cures this and I only get 2 falses like there should be.

    Sound wise, I like the V1 better, I like the audible alert you here when another threat is sensed, but it also is anoying when I'm at the grocery store and the bogey counter is randomly cycling from 3 to 9 bogeys 1000000 times a second.

    My X50 falsed maybe 5 times from random unknown sources the whole time I had it. NEVER had a Ka False, and had the usual X and K falses from known falses consistently distance and number wise. My V1 seams kinda random at times. I have gotten 1 laser false (No laser in the area I was in) and numerous X and K falses. I get the occasional Ka, but not bad. The X falsing is soooooo horrible I disabled X band (Although I feel I shouldnt have to).

    Distance and sensitivity wise, I am not impressed with the V1. I have my unit just below the rearview mirror with the mirror shoved all the way up to the headliner. So far this has given the best results. I had the unit to the left of the mirror for a while, but my arrows and bogey counter seamed to freak out whenever I got near any false sources. With the unit below the mirror, it is only 1 inch lower than it was before and I used a level to make sure the unit is level.

    I had a Ka coming towards me yesturday and got an estimated .3 miles of range from initial alert to where I thought the LEO would have been. The v1 didnt go full tilt until I was about 50 feet away form the LEO.

    Today, I was in an area with 2 known falses @ 25 MPH (my V1 shows 3 to 5 in this area with POP on) and my bogey counter went nuts as usual and my signal strength was 1 to 3 units. I passed this area but my V1 still showed 2 for K band strength. I look up and saw a LEO 50 feet in front of me on the side of the road pointing his gun straight at me (only car in the road also) and my V1 never showed more than 2 units of signal strength and quickly dismissed this about 25 feet after I passed him.

    Last night, I was in town in an area known for constant on Ka. My X50 would sense the LEO about .5 to .6 miles away on this stretch of road going towards it and about .3 miles going away from it. There is always a LEO there at night using constant on Ka, but I didnt figure there was one there last night because my V1 did not go off until 0.2 miles away. I figured he was using instant on instead, so I went back and waited till a train of cars were in front of me for about 1 mile, I went down the same stretch and didnt receive anything till .2 miles again. I went back the way I came this time and got the Ka about .1 miles behind him going towards him and I got about .3 miles of range going away from him..... Also, even with the Ka on more responsive, my signal strength didnt ramp up until I was close enough to the LEO to see the donut sprinkles on his shirt. I repeated the test several more times with different programmed settings and I got similar results. Turning POP on and off only reduced false alerts on my way home, didnt do squat for range.

    I'm hoping I'm just getting poor test scenarios for the V1, but so far my V1 is less than par distance and sensitivity wise to my old Cobra 9300 which also falsed much less on X and K.

    I'll give it another week, hopefully I can get some good results. I know Valentine doesnt have so many strong supporters due to poor range and false alerts. The display confusion will be solved with time, but the distance thing is really troubling me to the point where I dont feel safe going 5 MPH over anymore and really isn't that what I paid $400 for?

    EDIT: Adv Logic mode solves a lot of my X and K problems, but with the X50, I could leave it on Highway all the time and not be overly annoyed. Also all the scenarios listed above where on flat straight roads with no hills, curves, or dips. I have yet to have a highway encounter with the v1, my x50 in same location would give 1 to 3 miles of warning
    the V1 isnt for everyone. Send the V1 back and join the likes of AirMoore and Sethy as V1 Closet-Zombies.

    Sorry the V1 didn't work out for you. If you are getting X band detection, then K band then Ka band, jumping back n forth, something is wrong with the V1. Either you guys are just having bad luck with your V1s or you guys are forum plants to help flatten out the jump in V1 sales.

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    Default Re: Tryin to love my V1... It's growin on me

    Quote Originally Posted by Brent_Vino
    Send the V1 back and join the likes of AirMoore and Sethy as V1 Closet-Zombies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brent_Vino
    or you guys are forum plants to help flatten out the jump in V1 sales.
    I am excluding AIR from this.

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    Default Re: Tryin to love my V1... It's growin on me

    Quote Originally Posted by Brent_Vino
    Quote Originally Posted by SPL15
    Upgraded to a V1 from a x50 last Friday and so far mixed feelings.

    I really do miss the Expert display of the X50 big time. With that display, I could easily see what was normal and what was not and see signal strengths of each individual threat. The Bogey counter is better than nothing, but since I'm still getting used to it, I have to look at it a bit longer and decode what is being displayed (mainly due to the fact my arrows and bogey counter go nuts when I'm within 0.5 mile of an area with 2 or more automatic doors).

    Also, in areas I used to get 2 falses with my X50, I get 4 to 6 with the V1 even though there really are only 2 falses. It gets really annoying when sometimes I drive by and I get 4 falses, then other times I get 5 or 6. Disabling POP cures this and I only get 2 falses like there should be.

    Sound wise, I like the V1 better, I like the audible alert you here when another threat is sensed, but it also is anoying when I'm at the grocery store and the bogey counter is randomly cycling from 3 to 9 bogeys 1000000 times a second.

    My X50 falsed maybe 5 times from random unknown sources the whole time I had it. NEVER had a Ka False, and had the usual X and K falses from known falses consistently distance and number wise. My V1 seams kinda random at times. I have gotten 1 laser false (No laser in the area I was in) and numerous X and K falses. I get the occasional Ka, but not bad. The X falsing is soooooo horrible I disabled X band (Although I feel I shouldnt have to).

    Distance and sensitivity wise, I am not impressed with the V1. I have my unit just below the rearview mirror with the mirror shoved all the way up to the headliner. So far this has given the best results. I had the unit to the left of the mirror for a while, but my arrows and bogey counter seamed to freak out whenever I got near any false sources. With the unit below the mirror, it is only 1 inch lower than it was before and I used a level to make sure the unit is level.

    I had a Ka coming towards me yesturday and got an estimated .3 miles of range from initial alert to where I thought the LEO would have been. The v1 didnt go full tilt until I was about 50 feet away form the LEO.

    Today, I was in an area with 2 known falses @ 25 MPH (my V1 shows 3 to 5 in this area with POP on) and my bogey counter went nuts as usual and my signal strength was 1 to 3 units. I passed this area but my V1 still showed 2 for K band strength. I look up and saw a LEO 50 feet in front of me on the side of the road pointing his gun straight at me (only car in the road also) and my V1 never showed more than 2 units of signal strength and quickly dismissed this about 25 feet after I passed him.

    Last night, I was in town in an area known for constant on Ka. My X50 would sense the LEO about .5 to .6 miles away on this stretch of road going towards it and about .3 miles going away from it. There is always a LEO there at night using constant on Ka, but I didnt figure there was one there last night because my V1 did not go off until 0.2 miles away. I figured he was using instant on instead, so I went back and waited till a train of cars were in front of me for about 1 mile, I went down the same stretch and didnt receive anything till .2 miles again. I went back the way I came this time and got the Ka about .1 miles behind him going towards him and I got about .3 miles of range going away from him..... Also, even with the Ka on more responsive, my signal strength didnt ramp up until I was close enough to the LEO to see the donut sprinkles on his shirt. I repeated the test several more times with different programmed settings and I got similar results. Turning POP on and off only reduced false alerts on my way home, didnt do squat for range.

    I'm hoping I'm just getting poor test scenarios for the V1, but so far my V1 is less than par distance and sensitivity wise to my old Cobra 9300 which also falsed much less on X and K.

    I'll give it another week, hopefully I can get some good results. I know Valentine doesnt have so many strong supporters due to poor range and false alerts. The display confusion will be solved with time, but the distance thing is really troubling me to the point where I dont feel safe going 5 MPH over anymore and really isn't that what I paid $400 for?

    EDIT: Adv Logic mode solves a lot of my X and K problems, but with the X50, I could leave it on Highway all the time and not be overly annoyed. Also all the scenarios listed above where on flat straight roads with no hills, curves, or dips. I have yet to have a highway encounter with the v1, my x50 in same location would give 1 to 3 miles of warning
    the V1 isnt for everyone. Send the V1 back and join the likes of AirMoore and Sethy as V1 Closet-Zombies.

    Sorry the V1 didn't work out for you. If you are getting X band detection, then K band then Ka band, jumping back n forth, something is wrong with the V1. Either you guys are just having bad luck with your V1s or you guys are forum plants to help flatten out the jump in V1 sales.
    :wink: but this is ture the v1 is not for everyone even more when they dont like more fasles due to more SEN? ON THE V1

 

 

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