Pro 78se 35.5Ka video 9/3/2009

[djrams80]

Hmm, a expansive RD = a good RD. A cheapy RD = a bad RD. I simply can't agree to that.

I heard your arguments before about I/O at long range. So, are you saying that my Pro 78se can't detect a I/O radar, even when it can detect a C/O radar at 3+ miles? You've seen my 3+ miles of 35.5Ka detection on video before. Here it is, in case you don't remember:
YouTube - Whistler Pro 78se 35.5Ka 7/31/2009

Oh, I guess that was too easy of a condition for any detector. Yeah, wait a while and I might just get a long range I/O detection on video. Long range I/O detections are hard to proof, since a RD could pick up a false signal and then see a cop later on a long ways off. I've seen videos like that (I don't care for speculations).

Whistler Pro 78se is not perfect nor expansive, but I guess it works just fine for me in what you would call an "easy for any cheapy detector environment".

You took my comment personal. It wasn't meant as a shot at the Pro78SE at all. I was just answering the question in general. If all someone is up against is C/O radar, then any cheapy RD will do. I wasn't referring to the Pro78SE when I made that statement. I was thinking of like a $50 Cobra or something. My answer was more explaining that the more sensitivity a RD has, the longer distance it will be able to pick up an I/O shot.

[mikeslc]

You took my comment personal. It wasn't meant as a shot at the Pro78SE at all. I was just answering the question in general. If all someone is up against is C/O radar, then any cheapy RD will do. I wasn't referring to the Pro78SE when I made that statement. I was thinking of like a $50 Cobra or something. My answer was more explaining that the more sensitivity a RD has, the longer distance it will be able to pick up an I/O shot.

I guess I woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.

I can definitely see the advantage of more sensitivity, but it's a balance. I want a V1, but fear it's higher sensitivity would come at a cost of more noise. I want a 9500ix, but fear that it won't alert to a Q/T in close or long range. For me it's all about finding that good balance of quietness, performance, features and cost.

[djrams80]

I guess I woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.

No sweat, happens to all of us. There are times when I see some mean-spirited post I've made and think to myself, "What was wrong with me that day?".

I can definitely see the advantage of more sensitivity, but it's a balance. I want a V1, but fear it's higher sensitivity would come at a cost of more noise.

It would.

I want a 9500ix, but fear that it won't alert to a Q/T in close or long range.

It could. It certainly happened to me on my 9500ci.

For me it's all about finding that good balance of quietness, performance, features and cost.

I've seen enough of your videos to completely agree with you that the Pro78SE is more than good enough for your area. I just didn't see those same results here in SoCal. I personally can't run the Whistlers in filter or filter1 here in SoCal, because the Ka falses are just unbearable. I'm starting to think there is a significant performance gap between filter and filter2 on these Whistlers. We saw something(non-Whistler related) at GoL that makes me think this.

[Freebird]

Testing against that fixed 34.7 speed trailer (When I first got the 78Se) I tried all 3 filter modes and made several passes. I was unable to find any difference in performance between any of the 3 filter modes.

[mikeslc]

I've seen enough of your videos to completely agree with you that the Pro78SE is more than good enough for your area. I just didn't see those same results here in SoCal. I personally can't run the Whistlers in filter or filter1 here in SoCal, because the Ka falses are just unbearable. I'm starting to think there is a significant performance gap between filter and filter2 on these Whistlers. We saw something(non-Whistler related) at GoL that makes me think this.

I'm puzzled and troubled by those erratic Ka false alerts on my Pro 78se. I don't see them often, but that's the one area where Whistler needs to work on. I guess the Whistlers are ultra sensitive to something that it shouldn't be. My guess is that it's reacting to some sort of communication signals. I hope Michael B. is out there with his high tech instruments trying to find the source of the problem.

[mikeslc]

Testing against that fixed 34.7 speed trailer (When I first got the 78Se) I tried all 3 filter modes and made several passes. I was unable to find any difference in performance between any of the 3 filter modes.

Filter 2 does not eliminate those erratic Ka9 false alerts nor does using KaRSID instead of KaMaxID. I still can't tell if performance degrades when I use Filter 2. I've gotten great detections while using Filter 2.

[TRun]

Testing against that fixed 34.7 speed trailer (When I first got the 78Se) I tried all 3 filter modes and made several passes. I was unable to find any difference in performance between any of the 3 filter modes.

Filter 2 does not eliminate those erratic Ka9 false alerts nor does using KaRSID instead of KaMaxID. I still can't tell if performance degrades when I use Filter 2. I've gotten great detections while using Filter 2.

There may be something with your vehicle's electrical system thats setting off the Ka9 bursts.

[Freebird]

The ka 9 falses appear to happen to me in heavy traffic more than any other time. I agree ka norm, rsid and kamax id settings have no affect on getting rid of these. I also get some k9 falses also in heavy traffic, lasting a few seconds.
I do have the least amount of these on filter 2 mode.

[mikeslc]

There may be something with your vehicle's electrical system thats setting off the Ka9 bursts.

I had thought that my Pro 78se has a built in "reckless driving" alert feature. There have been a few times where I would get a burst of Ka9 alerts when I got aggressive in my car. Maybe a surge of electrical current triggered something. I have very little knowledge in electrical engineering, so I don't know if that's even possible.

TRun, are you seeing those Ka9 alerts on your 690se?

[TRun]

In Filter2 mode I never see any Ka9 bursts. Right now I'm running in Filter trying to see how many falses I can get, so far there is the rather rare Ka9 but I've found the source to be a leaky RD 99% of the time. I'm hitting the road tonight so I hope to catch some action on film.