Whistler with superb Instant on at GOL 2009

[Freebird]

I have to admit that because of the GOL tests I have a new respect for Whistler RDs. They truly are one of the best RDs against I/O and QT.

For the price you get awesome Spectre performance, awesome IO/QT performance in the default filter mode, and you get INSANE customer service.

I have never received such great customer service from anyone, radar detector, automotive, motorcycle co etc. You name it Michael B blows them away with his awesome customer support.

[djrams80]

I don't want to be a pain here, but from what I understand you have always looked at the GOL test in high regard. Are you questioning the results now that they say that Whistlers outperform belscorts in instant on?

Absolutely not! As a matter of fact, I performed this test. What I am saying is that this testing was run in the Whistler's default setting, which is filter mode. Based on my own testing, it's my opinion that these results would have been significantly different, if the setting on the Whistler was filter2, instead of filter.

Now, your problems were with the falses. That can't be tested in a lab setting and is a reason why real world testing should also be used rather than doing a controlled test and letting that be the be all end all. I'm not saying that GOL should of done a real world test, that really isn't the type of things that we do, we actually already have a lot of information about real world performance from different users on the forums so an official real world test is not necessary, especially since you already have driven around with the SE for a significant amount of time DJ.

Again, I'm not trying to be a pain, it's just that looking back at some of the arguments that ensued when you tested the SE series, I'm left a little confused by some of the statements made in your post.

I'm saying that on these Whistler SEs, false alerts and performance are related. If you live in an area where Ka band false alerts are a problem, in order to deal with them, it has been my observation that you will be sacrificing responsiveness. That's my point.

[mikeslc]

A lot of Se users will never have an issue with ka falses like me and Dj have here in LA. Only in Heavy 10 lanes of bumper to bumper traffic, 5 flowing one way, 5 the other, do I experience the most ka falses. With this I feel a very very small percentage of Whistler owners will have enough ka falses to be seen as an issue.

I see 1 to 2 of those Ka falses per day if I'm unlucky. I use default Filter or Filter 1 most of the time. I turned my X band and K band off on my Pro 78se and it's super quiet.

Freebird, didn't you say that your Pro 78se alerted to the Q/T fine in Filter 2 when you ran into that Q/T happy Motocop? Do you remember if POP was on or off?

I'm curious about V1's ability to detect Q/T if POP is turned off. I think it would be interesting to see a comparison of Q/T performance between a Whistler SE and a V1 with POP turned off.

[djrams80]

I get quite a few in LA, but usually around the same spots.

Interesting. My Ka band false alerts seemed completely random.

I always check my speed just to be safe.

These alerts are almost always full blast. If they were real, it would be too late.

[Freebird]

Freebird, didn't you say that your Pro 78se alerted to the Q/T fine in Filter 2 when you ran into that Q/T happy Motocop? Do you remember if POP was on or off?

Yes I tried all 3 modes and even on filter 2 he appeared to be shooting the same amount of time between shots, 3-5 seconds , leading me to believe i was still picking up all of his shots in filter 2 mode.
He was shooting every 3-5 seconds and holding the trigger down 1 and a half to 2 seconds on average.

Pop was off.

[Jag42]

A lot of Se users will never have an issue with ka falses like me and Dj have here in LA. Only in Heavy 10 lanes of bumper to bumper traffic, 5 flowing one way, 5 the other, do I experience the most ka falses. With this I feel a very very small percentage of Whistler owners will have enough ka falses to be seen as an issue.

I see 1 to 2 of those Ka falses per day if I'm unlucky. I use default Filter or Filter 1 most of the time. I tuned my X band and K band off on my Pro 78se and it's super quiet.

Freebird, didn't you say that your Pro 78se alerted to the Q/T fine in Filter 2 when you ran into that Q/T happy Motocop? Do you remember if POP was on or off?

I'm curious about V1's ability to detect Q/T if POP is turned off. I think it would be interesting to see a comparison of Q/T performance between a Whistler SE and a V1 with POP turned off.

Lately i have been getting allot of false Ka alerts on my new route to work. They are in the same location also. Filter 2 eliminates them. Filter 2 is fine for most of the time. Mike B said that FILTER mode picks up radar scatter better. I have noticed this over hills and overpasses.

[djrams80]

I see 1 to 2 of those Ka falses per day if I'm unlucky. I use default Filter or Filter 1 most of the time.

That's about what I got in filter2 and it drove me bananas.

I tuned my X band and K band off on my Pro 78se and it's super quiet.

Well yeah, but if you run into K band, you're toast. Turning off X and K band is not possible for 99.9% of those RD users out there.

Freebird, didn't you say that your Pro 78se alerted to the Q/T fine in Filter 2 when you ran into that Q/T happy Motocop? Do you remember if POP was on or off?

I'm curious about V1's ability to detect Q/T if POP is turned off. I think it would be interesting to see a comparison of Q/T performance between a Whistler SE and a V1 with POP turned off.

V1, pop off.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi5CTyj81Rg]YouTube - Crude V1 and 9500ci Quick Trigger Test[/ame]

Whistler XTR-695SE, pop off.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9ht8n1tBeQ]YouTube - Stalker Quick Trigger Testing[/ame]

[Güero]

Jag 42, I see that it says you're from West Texas. What city?

Sigh, it seems that no matter what, djrams will always find a way to sour the day of the Whistler owners. He will never admit that Whistlers are excellent performers. Like Stealth said, I would also take my XTR-690 over any Belscort any day?

Who needs 2+ mile detection when it can't even detect QT I/O couple hundred feet away?

I think part of djrams problem is that he just can't face the fact that my $150 RD outperforms his $1400+ RD on everything but range. But as I mentioned before, no one NEEDS 2+ mile range, it's nice, but sure as hell not worth hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars extra.

[Jag42]

Jag 42, I see that it says you're from West Texas. What city?

Lubbock ..A Fast RD is a must in TEXAS. Who cares about constant on. I would rather have a 1/2 mile warning of quick trigger.

[Freebird]

Jag 42, I see that it says you're from West Texas. What city?

Sigh, it seems that no matter what, djrams will always find a way to sour the day of the Whistler owners. He will never admit that Whistlers are excellent performers. Like Stealth said, I would also take my XTR-690 over any Belscort any day?

Who needs 2+ mile detection when it can't even detect QT I/O couple hundred feet away?

I think part of djrams problem is that he just can't face the fact that my $150 RD outperforms his $1400+ RD on everything but range. But as I mentioned before, no one NEEDS 2+ mile range, it's nice, but sure as hell not worth hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars extra.

Some Whistler owners need to stop being so sensitive. Dj is showing facts and the choice is yours. Dont be so quick to get on the defensive and lets keep this discussion positive.