sti vs v1 new zealand

[philnz]

after feed back of owners of both these units or if you own both even better.
in nz we have mostly 34.7 stalker and 34.6 cameras.
with the v1 i have, i get stuff all warning, about 150-200m .
just wondering if anybody finds the sti (or stiXR...nz version)any better.
one reseller here has letter from a "client" saying that they are getting 800m around cnr on the camera
xr version is $900 nz so if there is stuff all dif then i wont wast my money

cheers guys
8)

[Zurk]

doubt an sti would do better than a v1. the main feature of the sti is stealth and not range.

[MEM-TEK]

The STi XR New Zealand version is simply an STi with X and K bands factory disabled. Unfortunately, around 4% of radar guns in New Zealand supposedly still are K band. If this is still true then a standard STi would be better in my opinion -- just turn off X band.

GOL's off-axis tests suggest that the V1 generally performs better than the STi on Ka band, but this is really up in the air since many (including me) have noticed that sensitivity on all bands seems to be up after their STi's were re-flashed with the 33.8 fix. On the other hand, GOL's tests suggest that the V1 has a serious off-axis Ka off-axis detection difficulties for Ka 35.5. I still have some issues regarding their test setup though, even though I think that their results generally are fairly accurate.

What would I suggest? I am a STi fan, but considering that 96% of radar in New Zealand is Ka and that some Ka guns are rather short range, I think that the V1 is the best choice for you since those directional arrows are sure to come in handy there.

[Virion]

I recently purchased an STi. So far it's Ka on 35.5 seems to slightly stronger in some situations and significantly stronger in others in comparison to my V1. Today I received a 35.5 Ka signal 2- 2.5 miles ahead. My V1 while fantastic has never alerted this far ahead with 35.5 Ka on this stretch of road. On the other hand, I had no idea if the radar source was coming from the front or the rear. Generally when you have a signal this far away, your inclined to think it's a LEO behind you. If I had been using my V1 I would have known.

[MEM-TEK]

I recently purchased an STi. So far it's Ka on 35.5 seems to slightly stronger in some situations and significantly stronger in others in comparison to my V1. Today I received a 35.5 Ka signal 2- 2.5 miles ahead. My V1 while fantastic has never alerted this far ahead with 35.5 Ka on this stretch of road. On the other hand, I had no idea if the radar source was coming from the front or the rear. Generally when you have a signal this far away, your inclined to think it's a LEO behind you. If I had been using my V1 I would have known.

Good points. This is why, for New Zealand with its propensity for winding and hilly roads, I thought that the V1 with its arrows would probably come in handy since you need to know if an alert is coming from behind you rather than around the next curve or over the next hill.

[laswellbill]

Hi Philnz fellow Kiwi here. I own both the V1 and the STi and I prefer the STi because I get better results against the speed cameras. Not great results all the time, it's very dependant on how they set them up and how much traffic is around to give reflections, but overall it beats the V1.

The arrows aren't really that much of an advantage over here because the LEO's aren't allowed to randomly speed on the off chance that they'll catch up with a motorist speeding slightly slower so waaay over 90% of your hits will be from the front anyway.

K band? Naah... snowballs chance in Hell.

GOL's off axis test? Worthless garbage.

Bel are also bringing out the STi R a remote mount version of the STi that lets you turn off unused segments of the Ka superwide spectrum. We''ll be able to turn off 85% of it which should again improve the speed camera performance. The downside is the hideous price but I think I'll bite the bullet and sell my V1 and STi to fund it.

US STi versus STi XR AU-NZ. I doubt there's a difference but I'm not sure.

[ghz1]

Hi Philnz fellow Kiwi here. I own both the V1 and the STi and I prefer the STi because I get better results against the speed cameras. Not great results all the time, it's very dependant on how they set them up and how much traffic is around to give reflections, but overall it beats the V1.

The arrows aren't really that much of an advantage over here because the LEO's aren't allowed to randomly speed on the off chance that they'll catch up with a motorist speeding slightly slower so waaay over 90% of your hits will be from the front anyway.

K band? Naah... snowballs chance in Hell.



Bel are also bringing out the STi R a remote mount version of the STi that lets you turn off unused segments of the Ka superwide spectrum. We''ll be able to turn off 85% of it which should again improve the speed camera performance. The downside is the hideous price but I think I'll bite the bullet and sell my V1 and STi to fund it.

US STi versus STi XR AU-NZ. I doubt there's a difference but I'm not sure.

GOL's off axis test? Worthless garbage.
Crap to that pal. You sell detectors bud? Better profit with the bell eh.

[KnightHawk]

GOL's off axis test? Worthless garbage.
Crap to that pal. You sell detectors bud? Better profit with the bell eh.

I don't think he knows what he's talking about.

[laswellbill]

GOL's off axis test? Worthless garbage.
Crap to that pal. You sell detectors bud? Better profit with the bell eh.

I don't think he knows what he's talking about.

Well this is the Internet so everything you read should be questioned. Personally I don’t think GOL is spelt GOD and so I don’t accept what they say without question. Doubtless this will get me banned and deleted but here goes…

If you go back to GOL’s October 2006 test it was divided up into two parts one with the foam and one where they used the classic over the hill test. The over the hill test was described as the best real world style test for comparing the sensitivity of various detectors… and I agree… that’s what we as users experience day to day and the results pretty much reflected most peoples expectations. It’s the Gold Standard of tests IMHO.

The foam test came with the warning in bold type “This test is NOT real world” and I agree again. Surely if you’re going to use the foam it’s got to give an approximation of what was achieved with the over the hill test otherwise it’s just worthless garbage. Here you’ve got the same detectors and guns used within hours of each other in both tests and the results are simply all over the place in both relative order of the detectors and their relative ranges. Personally I think the over the hill test is the one to go for and the foam test is rubbish.

In the Off Axis test the whole set-up of the test is completely unreal because of the way the RD is angled relative to the gun. It simply doesn’t reflect the way encounters work in the real world.

The number of detectors tested. Surely we’re not drawing conclusions from one example of each… ?

Finally you’re just left with personal experience. I use the STi and V1 against Stalker Ka 34.7 day in day out and I know that GOL’s approximation of their relative off axis performance is best described by a four letter word that starts with S and ends in hit.

So yeah… “worthless garbage” sums it up for me. YMMV.

[KnightHawk]

GOL's off axis test? Worthless garbage.
Crap to that pal. You sell detectors bud? Better profit with the bell eh.

I don't think he knows what he's talking about.

Well this is the Internet so everything you read should be questioned. Personally I don’t think GOL is spelt GOD and so I don’t accept what they say without question. Doubtless this will get me banned and deleted but here goes…

If you go back to GOL’s October 2006 test it was divided up into two parts one with the foam and one where they used the classic over the hill test. The over the hill test was described as the best real world style test for comparing the sensitivity of various detectors… and I agree… that’s what we as users experience day to day and the results pretty much reflected most peoples expectations. It’s the Gold Standard of tests IMHO.

The foam test came with the warning in bold type “This test is NOT real world” and I agree again. Surely if you’re going to use the foam it’s got to give an approximation of what was achieved with the over the hill test otherwise it’s just worthless garbage. Here you’ve got the same detectors and guns used within hours of each other in both tests and the results are simply all over the place in both relative order of the detectors and their relative ranges. Personally I think the over the hill test is the one to go for and the foam test is rubbish.

In the Off Axis test the whole set-up of the test is completely unreal because of the way the RD is angled relative to the gun. It simply doesn’t reflect the way encounters work in the real world.

The number of detectors tested. Surely we’re not drawing conclusions from one example of each… ?

Finally you’re just left with personal experience. I use the STi and V1 against Stalker Ka 34.7 day in day out and I know that GOL’s approximation of their relative off axis performance is best described by a four letter word that starts with S and ends in hit.

So yeah… “worthless garbage” sums it up for me. YMMV.

Hey bud, again i'll say that you don't know what you're talking about X10 or even X100 if that's not enough.

"Real world" scenarios are always inconsistent and unreliable data as far as numbers are concerned.

Yes, you use the STi and the V1 day in and day out but you don't test the V1 and STi day in and day out. That's night and day bro.

So, what have you learned about the STi and V1 with your day in and day out encounters with 34.7 stalkers since you specifically mentioned that? I'd like to hear and read it.

Like this?

Not great results all the time, it's very dependant on how they set them up and how much traffic is around to give reflections,