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    Does anyone know if the gps in the 9500i uses the WAAS technology?

    The other question is regarding locking out door opener frequencies. I am a bit confused as to the range hence my preceding question.

    I was 10ft from a door, it was a K band (can't remember) frequency. I pushed the mute 3 times and it locked that out. Drove from there to another shopping area almost 3/4 mile away, it was an area that I knew had triggered my other detector in the past but no alarm from my new 9500i. The satellite icon was rotating so I knew it was locking out that signal. Is this normal that a signal lockout is active in such a large diameter area? Is this how it works with you other owners of 9500i's ?

    Mine is a 3207 that arrived yesterday and I can tell you that the ramp-up has not been addressed/fixed in my RD.

    Thanks for any replies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmorcos
    Does anyone know if the gps in the 9500i uses the WAAS technology?

    The other question is regarding locking out door opener frequencies. I am a bit confused as to the range hence my preceding question.

    I was 10ft from a door, it was a K band (can't remember) frequency. I pushed the mute 3 times and it locked that out. Drove from there to another shopping area almost 3/4 mile away, it was an area that I knew had triggered my other detector in the past but no alarm from my new 9500i. The satellite icon was rotating so I knew it was locking out that signal. Is this normal that a signal lockout is active in such a large diameter area? Is this how it works with you other owners of 9500i's ?

    Mine is a 3207 that arrived yesterday and I can tell you that the ramp-up has not been addressed/fixed in my RD.

    Thanks for any replies.
    I wouldn't own one of those for that reason. Example: "I don't my RD to false while I have a client in my vehicle" OK, But do you wan't to get your ass pulled over and cited with a client in your vehicle because your high and mighty locked out a true signal out :?: :?:.

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    The defined area I "believe" is supposed to be 1/10 of a mile, but it could stretch to some degree. My guess is the detector has remembered that false in the area from your previous trip and locked it out.

    Here is a thread where we have tested true lock quiet a bit and members have helped out in the discussion as we try to figure out exactly / how why it works.

    http://www.radardetector.net/viewtopic.php?t=30142

    One of the biggest advantages would be to find out what your local department is running. If they are not using any K band then you have nothing to worry about. If they are it would be nice to know what range their guns are working on.

    Enjoy your 9500i I don't know what Escort did to it, but it's amazing. If I where not a V1 zombie I'd be using one. If / when they fix the ramp up I will more than likely go back to one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmorcos
    Does anyone know if the gps in the 9500i uses the WAAS technology?

    The other question is regarding locking out door opener frequencies. I am a bit confused as to the range hence my preceding question.

    I was 10ft from a door, it was a K band (can't remember) frequency. I pushed the mute 3 times and it locked that out. Drove from there to another shopping area almost 3/4 mile away, it was an area that I knew had triggered my other detector in the past but no alarm from my new 9500i. The satellite icon was rotating so I knew it was locking out that signal. Is this normal that a signal lockout is active in such a large diameter area? Is this how it works with you other owners of 9500i's ?

    Mine is a 3207 that arrived yesterday and I can tell you that the ramp-up has not been addressed/fixed in my RD.

    Thanks for any replies.
    This is THE major flaw with the 9500i. It will acquire additional signals and extend the initial lockout region. If you're in an area that has numerous door openers, initiating a lockout can result in large areas being included in that lockout region as well as all the Xs and Ks that the unit detected. Leaving the user with little to no X/K band protection against real radar threats. You have to use the lockout feature carefully, wisely or you will get burned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmorcos
    Does anyone know if the gps in the 9500i uses the WAAS technology?
    No,it doesn't.WAAS is not allways the best option,sometimes it can be less accurate than normal GPS signal.On battery operated devices,WAAS option will drain your GPS battery fast.I think WAAS and external GPS antennas for RDs with GPS would be useless.15 to 20ft accuracy is more than enough,for POI proximity alerts or TruLock or marked locations,to work correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by insidercw3
    It will acquire additional signals and extend the initial lockout region. If you're in an area that has numerous door openers, initiating a lockout can result in large areas being included in that lockout region as well as all the Xs and Ks that the unit detected. Leaving the user with little to no X/K band protection against real radar threats. You have to use the lockout feature carefully, wisely or you will get burned.
    X2

    The 9500I uses SiRFstarIII.

    TrueLock can be tricky on the 9500I, but it works just fine if you use it carefully. It does lock out other falsies once you hit the mute button 3 times, approximately 1/10mi of the last signal receaved. But you can prevent this if you would like. (I actually like this feature for my area)
    I suggest reading my whole thread:
    http://www.radardetector.net/viewtopic.php?t=29245

    But here's an excerpt from my thread to solve your concern:

    The details/Tricks:
    In areas where police X band isn't used, lock out X band falsies the first time you encounter them. (no risk )
    In areas where police K band isn't used, lock out K band falsies the first time you encounter them. (no risk )
    If K band is used by LEO’s in your area (also goes for X band) you may want to only lock out the current specific false signal and nothing else (use Expert Mode to see how many): after locking out the desired false signal power down the 9500I then power it up( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7Txmo6RB6k ). This will prevent the 9500i from searching for more signals after you lock out your desired one. This will also help prevent the very small chance of locking out a LEO or multiple sources (Low risk area).

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    Quote Originally Posted by aradarnut
    I wouldn't own one of those for that reason. Example: "I don't my RD to false while I have a client in my vehicle" OK, But do you wan't to get your ass pulled over and cited with a client in your vehicle because your high and mighty locked out a true signal out :?: :?:.
    1) Why would you lock out a high risk area? :shock:
    2) Why would you speed in a high risk area? :shock:
    3) What would you be doing with a client in your car? :wink:

    Read my post above and put your mind at ease. :wink:

    I chose the 9500I because:
    1) It smokes the 8500 :wink:
    2) Coolest RD ever :roll:
    3) Quietest ever :twisted:
    4) Only 2nd to the V1 :P
    5) I could go on and on and on.
    8)

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    [quote=
    I chose the 9500I because:
    1) It smokes the 8500 :wink:
    2) Coolest RD ever :roll:
    3) Quietest ever :twisted:
    4) Only 2nd to the V1 :P
    5) I could go on and on and on.
    8)[/quote]

    I enjoy the latest technology as many other do. The True Lock feature is not as much as a deal breaker for me for the same reason you mentioned. The areas I have locked are busy down town areas, and I do not speed there, so silencing that annoying false is in-fact a joy to me.

    However, what is more important is sensitivity to me. As I have said, I have had the detector for 2 days and want to test sensitivity against my RX-65. I do not run both at the same time and for now, I have determined that the X band sensitivity for both to be identical. I have not seen any test comparing the 2 I have in the X band so they might be the same.
    Having said that, X band is not used in my state, I just want to know for myself. My test for the X band sensitivity so far has been on a street about 1/2 a mile long that starts with a mild curve and a slight uphill, and ends with a mild curve. In the middle of the strech there is an intersection that goes to a schools main office which has the X-Band door opener, so at midpoint of the stretch the signall is at its peak.Both detectors detected the X-Band comming from both ends at the same point. I did not have not even a 20ft gain in sensitivity with the 9500 vs Rx65 with several runs done at different times of the day.

    I am more concerned with the K & Ka sensitivity which I will test as much as I can in the following weeks before deciding whether to send back to Escort or not.

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    See GOL's latest test, you will see the difference in the 9500I and the RX-65.
    http://www.guysoflidar.com/august-20...ctor-test.html

    Let us know how your personal tests go, those are the important ones. 8)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJR238
    Quote Originally Posted by aradarnut
    I wouldn't own one of those for that reason. Example: "I don't my RD to false while I have a client in my vehicle" OK, But do you wan't to get your ass pulled over and cited with a client in your vehicle because your high and mighty locked out a true signal out :?: :?:.
    1) Why would you lock out a high risk area? :shock:
    2) Why would you speed in a high risk area? :shock:
    3) What would you be doing with a client in your car? :wink:

    Read my post above and put your mind at ease. :wink:

    I chose the 9500I because:
    1) It smokes the 8500 :wink:
    2) Coolest RD ever :roll:
    3) Quietest ever :twisted:
    4) Only 2nd to the V1 :P
    5) I could go on and on and on.
    8)
    Quote:
    The details/Tricks:
    In areas where police X band isn't used, lock out X band falsies the first time you encounter them. (no risk )
    In areas where police K band isn't used, lock out K band falsies the first time you encounter them. (no risk )
    If K band is used by LEO’s in your area (also goes for X band) you may want to only lock out the current specific false signal and nothing else (use Expert Mode to see how many): after locking out the desired false signal power down the 9500I then power it up( YouTube - 9500I True Lock ). This will prevent the 9500i from searching for more signals after you lock out your desired one. This will also help prevent the very small chance of locking out a LEO or multiple sources (Low risk area).


    I read your thread and look what I came up with: falsies




    fals·ies [ fáwlsseez ]


    plural noun

    Definition:

    padding for bra: two pads worn inside a bra to make the breasts look larger or more shapely ( informal )

    Did you mean falses? You don't even know what I am talking about as far as clients go, I personally don't use them. So before you bag on me-- check yourself! BTW I still wouldn't own a 9500i. Go ahead and justify the $450 ops: you paid for something that doesn't work as advertised. Also, the "quote" about clients that I gave ealerier was from another user and probably has nothing to do with what you are thinking about!

 

 

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