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    Default Duration of standard MUTE on 9500i?

    CJ you can probably answer this better than most...but since it happened again this AM and its fresh in my mind...here it goes..

    Can you explain the standard MUTE duration on the 9500i? I've had quite a few situations where I've been stumped. How long does a band/frequency stay stored after a mute?

    Example: I'll have a false in Kband drive me nuts as I'm passing, and hit the MUTE button once for a standard mute. I'll clear out of the area, and the signal will be gone for quite some time, then encounter an LEO also running Kband, and it'll show - but completely MUTE the signal also. (This can work either way, when muting an original LEO or False, then having it continue to mute something else). This sucks because unless you happen to be looking at the display when the new alert starts, you have no idea he's there. I understand that it must see it as a close frequency of the same band and include it as part of your enitial MUTE....but for how long? Its VERY frustrating that even the standard mute button can screw you, let alone TrueLock.

    So the real question is...how does it, and how long does it store that MUTED signal? Is it an ammount of time that has to pass before it gets another similar signal? Or is it distance from the last signal of it? If so...how long, or how far is this before it clears?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RadarKid View Post
    CJ you can probably answer this better than most...but since it happened again this AM and its fresh in my mind...here it goes..

    Can you explain the standard MUTE duration on the 9500i? I've had quite a few situations where I've been stumped. How long does a band/frequency stay stored after a mute?

    Example: I'll have a false in Kband drive me nuts as I'm passing, and hit the MUTE button once for a standard mute. I'll clear out of the area, and the signal will be gone for quite some time, then encounter an LEO also running Kband, and it'll show - but completely MUTE the signal also. (This can work either way, when muting an original LEO or False, then having it continue to mute something else). This sucks because unless you happen to be looking at the display when the new alert starts, you have no idea he's there. I understand that it must see it as a close frequency of the same band and include it as part of your enitial MUTE....but for how long? Its VERY frustrating that even the standard mute button can screw you, let alone TrueLock.

    So the real question is...how does it, and how long does it store that MUTED signal? Is it an ammount of time that has to pass before it gets another similar signal? Or is it distance from the last signal of it? If so...how long, or how far is this before it clears?
    Standard mute certainly has to do with time, maybe a 1 second lag for the signal to pass after original alert is not shown, however it has never been a problem for me.
    In my cases it has come in handy for similar falses close to each other that have a short break between them, certainly less than a second for me and never a real LEO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJR238 View Post
    Standard mute certainly has to do with time, maybe a 1 second lag for the signal to pass after original alert is not shown, however it has never been a problem for me.
    In my cases it has come in handy for similar falses close to each other that have a short break between them, certainly less than a second for me and never a real LEO.
    unfortunately, I've seen it happen much longer than a second or two after an alert. like at least a minute or two after the detector stops alerting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RadarKid View Post
    unfortunately, I've seen it happen much longer than a second or two after an alert. like at least a minute or two after the detector stops alerting.
    Try resetting the firmware on your 9500i. A power glitch or even a strong cosmic ray could have corrupted the stored settings. A reset will fix this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MEM-TEK View Post
    Try resetting the firmware on your 9500i. A power glitch or even a strong cosmic ray could have corrupted the stored settings. A reset will fix this.
    its brand new though. maybe a month or two old I think.
    Is it possible its really messed up already? What would I have to do to reset it, and what would have kind of "cosmic ray" would've screwed it up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RadarKid View Post
    unfortunately, I've seen it happen much longer than a second or two after an alert. like at least a minute or two after the detector stops alerting.
    Man you seem to get all the worse scenarios. If I didn’t know better I would think you were deliberately trying to be negative and making up bad scenarios.

    A minute is way to long, if you can video it for us that might help us understand because it doesn’t do it that long, there would have to be something wrong with your unit or a very unlikely scenario.

    Do you use Expert mode?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJR238 View Post
    Man you seem to get all the worse scenarios. If I didn’t know better I would think you were deliberately trying to be negative and making up bad scenarios.

    A minute is way to long, if you can video it for us that might help us understand because it doesn’t do it that long, there would have to be something wrong with your unit or a very unlikely scenario.

    Do you use Expert mode?
    Yes, I always use expert mode since I got the 9500i.
    I never use to with my X50.

    Hell no I don't make up bad scenarios. I wouldnt be frustrated if it was me TRYING to dupe it. It's everyday situations that frustrate me. Its been just another disappointment.
    I have several. TrueLock being the biggest, but the AutoMute and AutoVolume are sketchy. Sometimes they work as noted....sometimes they don't. At times when I've muted one signal, and a second one pops up, it'll say "Multiple Threats detected" and override the mute...but others, a new signal will pop up and remain muted. Sometimes AutoMute will "automute" a signal that is gaining intensity, and mute it at a full blast alert. From what I've been told by Escort, its not supposed to do that at all...only on alerts that are weak, or weakening. There's times when automute never kicks in on falses that are weak and weakening. It just continues to give a weak alert with no AutoMute.

    As for the AutoVolume, I've never noticed a difference and have tested it with windows up, down, radio loud and quiet etc. The Marked Location is worthless to me because its only on a radius marker, nothing to do with the roads you're on when marked. Therefore you constantly get alerts when you're nowhere near heading to the marked location.

    I don't have a camera set up in my car like some people I've seen, so to catch it on the occasions when a standard MUTE carries over to new signals up to a minute after the last one cleared would be difficult.

    I probably exagerated on the 2minute quote, but I'd be willing to bet its been up to a minute before when I've had that happen. Is there a SET amount of time its supposed to be? i.e. - 30 seconds?
    Last edited by RadarKid; 07-17-2008 at 08:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RadarKid View Post
    its brand new though. maybe a month or two old I think.
    Is it possible its really messed up already? What would I have to do to reset it, and what would have kind of "cosmic ray" would've screwed it up?
    I rarely use the mute button on my 9500i and instead use AutoMute. Today though I will test how long my 9500i stays muted after I hit mute and the alert ends.

    I don't think that your RD is messed up, but a reset never hurts. To reset your 9500i (and also see what its firmware version is), power off your 9500i using its power button. Then hold down both the SEN and BRT buttons and while holding these buttons down, press the power button. Stop holding down the SEN and BRT buttons when "RESET" is displayed.

    Cosmic rays are hard radiation which comes from mainly from our sun but also from outer space. Our atmosphere stops most cosmic rays. A strong cosmic ray hitting a computer memory chip or an EEPROM can corrupt the memory. It would have to be a rare and really strong cosmic ray to corrupt the memory in a radar detector, so a cosmic ray strike to a RD's memory which causes a problem really would be a once in a blue moon sort of thing.

    The one thing which can cause the memory to get corrupted is a sudden voltage fluctuation while the RD is powering up. This can occur if you let your RD turn on while starting your car. I always power on my RD after starting my car, and always power off my RD before shutting off my car. I also let my RDs go through the standard power-up sequence rather than using the quick power-up sequence. Why? If somehow your RD's memory gets corrupted which requires a reset, then usually the standard power-up sequence will be weird. Examples are that the power-up sequence may show a radar band to be off, LASER might never display, there might be no audio from the speaker, et cetera.

    If you like the convenience of letting your RD power up when you start your car and if you have hard wired your RD, then at least tap the power into one of the higher amperage fuse terminals in your fuse box. Why? The higher amperage terminals have heavier wires which run to your car's alternator and battery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MEM-TEK View Post
    I rarely use the mute button on my 9500i and instead use AutoMute. Today though I will test how long my 9500i stays muted after I hit mute and the alert ends.

    I don't think that your RD is messed up, but a reset never hurts. To reset your 9500i (and also see what its firmware version is), power off your 9500i using its power button. Then hold down both the SEN and BRT buttons and while holding these buttons down, press the power button. Stop holding down the SEN and BRT buttons when "RESET" is displayed.

    Cosmic rays are hard radiation which comes from mainly from our sun but also from outer space. Our atmosphere stops most cosmic rays. A strong cosmic ray hitting a computer memory chip or an EEPROM can corrupt the memory. It would have to be a rare and really strong cosmic ray to corrupt the memory in a radar detector, so a cosmic ray strike to a RD's memory which causes a problem really would be a once in a blue moon sort of thing.

    The one thing which can cause the memory to get corrupted is a sudden voltage fluctuation while the RD is powering up. This can occur if you let your RD turn on while starting your car. I always power on my RD after starting my car, and always power off my RD before shutting off my car. I also let my RDs go through the standard power-up sequence rather than using the quick power-up sequence. Why? If somehow your RD's memory gets corrupted which requires a reset, then usually the standard power-up sequence will be weird. Examples are that the power-up sequence may show a radar band to be off, LASER might never display, there might be no audio from the speaker, et cetera.

    If you like the convenience of letting your RD power up when you start your car and if you have hard wired your RD, then at least tap the power into one of the higher amperage fuse terminals in your fuse box. Why? The higher amperage terminals have heavier wires which run to your car's alternator and battery.
    because its hardwired, and I always remove it for security and to avoid overheating in the sun..I often have started the car before I plug power into the detector, however I always unplug it before shutting the car off. is this a bad habit?

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    I would personally allow the hardwire to power it up.

 

 

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