More Strange 9500ci Behavior

[swarga]

While developing the HUD-One, I have a little test circuit that I drive - a sort of Nurburgring of RADAR sources. It exposes my RDs to all 3 bands of RADAR and a couple of red light cameras.

Anyway, up until now I've been running my 9500ci with AutoLearn off for reasons discussed elsewhere. Just for snicks I decided to turn it on the other day, and since then I've been getting a lot of falsies automatically stored after only a single pass.

Here's what I believe is happening: the 9500ci increments its internal false alert counters for each location whether AutoLearn is enabled or not; however, if AutoLearn is not enabled, it will not lock those locations out when the count reaches the threshold. If you enable AutoLearn later on, the counters are already above the threshold so the next time you pass that false it gets immediately locked out.

Of course, this doesn't explain the earlier behavior where a source was locked out the very first time I ever passed it, but it might explain the sudden rash of unexpectedly quick lockouts I have witnessed over the past 2 days.

[focalcivic]

While developing the HUD-One, I have a little test circuit that I drive - a sort of Nurburgring of RADAR sources. It exposes my RDs to all 3 bands of RADAR and a couple of red light cameras.

Anyway, up until now I've been running my 9500ci with AutoLearn off for reasons discussed elsewhere. Just for snicks I decided to turn it on the other day, and since then I've been getting a lot of falsies automatically stored after only a single pass.

Here's what I believe is happening: the 9500ci increments its internal false alert counters for each location whether AutoLearn is enabled or not; however, if AutoLearn is not enabled, it will not lock those locations out when the count reaches the threshold. If you enable AutoLearn later on, the counters are already above the threshold so the next time you pass that false it gets immediately locked out.

Of course, this doesn't explain the earlier behavior where a source was locked out the very first time I ever passed it, but it might explain the sudden rash of unexpectedly quick lockouts I have witnessed over the past 2 days.

Sounds like it is learning anyway just incase you decide to activate the autolearn mode.=)

[happya$$]

While developing the HUD-One, I have a little test circuit that I drive - a sort of Nurburgring of RADAR sources. It exposes my RDs to all 3 bands of RADAR and a couple of red light cameras.

Anyway, up until now I've been running my 9500ci with AutoLearn off for reasons discussed elsewhere. Just for snicks I decided to turn it on the other day, and since then I've been getting a lot of falsies automatically stored after only a single pass.

Here's what I believe is happening: the 9500ci increments its internal false alert counters for each location whether AutoLearn is enabled or not; however, if AutoLearn is not enabled, it will not lock those locations out when the count reaches the threshold. If you enable AutoLearn later on, the counters are already above the threshold so the next time you pass that false it gets immediately locked out.

Of course, this doesn't explain the earlier behavior where a source was locked out the very first time I ever passed it, but it might explain the sudden rash of unexpectedly quick lockouts I have witnessed over the past 2 days.

Sounds like it is learning anyway just incase you decide to activate the autolearn mode.=)

Which is fine with me

[swarga]

Is this how you would expect it to behave?

Maybe it's just me, but I would expect everything associated with AutoLearn to be disabled when the AutoLearn feature was disabled; I would not expect part of it to keep working silently in the background.

I can deal with it either way, it just came as a bit of a surprise to me.

[MEM-TEK]

I recently experienced something fairly similar to what swarga describes. In my case, I simply changed my 9500ci's display from Standard Mode to Expert Mode. As soon as I did this, my 9500ci decided to happily show a spinning GPS icon when I made a right turn towards two nearby shopping centers. Months ago I had used their locations for some Truelock testing, but I unlocked those locations months ago and AutoLearn has also been turned off for months. Anyway, I have already passed this bug along to Escort. And note that this particular bug definitely could explain Happya$$'s videos of TrueLock locking out K band in locations where he had only manually locked out X band falses. I won't get into the details (too long to describe), but between my experience and Happya$$'s experience, I figured out what was going on and have forwarded the scenario to Escort. In short, the problem boils down to (in Standard Display mode) the alert for a higher frequency radar not immediately getting displayed until that higher frequency signal (say K band over X band) reaches a certain percentage of strength compared to the currently displayed alert. There is more to it than this, but this is the real short and simple explanation.