PA - GOOD NEWS - Man Wins Fight over Cell Phone Ban

[SpeedingVolvo]

Man Wins Fight over Cell Phone Ban|abc27 News

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Harrisburg is enforcing a municipal law (ban on talking while driving) that conflicts with the PA Vehicle Code.

This is the first court case over it since they started enforcing it about a month ago.


Another story that is related to this one about Lebanon, PA cell phone ban and how it is not enforced:

Lebanon Does Not Enforce Handheld Cell Phone Ban Despite Posted Signs - Pennsylvania News Story - WGAL The Susquehanna Valley

[GreenRadar]

the whole talking on a phone while driving thing is a huge issue. I heard that some states were even considering it illegal to talk on blue tooth while driving. This was a while ago that I heard this so don't really know what ever became of it.

[supercowpowers]

the whole talking on a phone while driving thing is a huge issue. I heard that some states were even considering it illegal to talk on blue tooth while driving. This was a while ago that I heard this so don't really know what ever became of it.

Personally, I would support a ban on that, because I believe it's the conversation that's distracting and not the physical act of holding the phone. But I don't support this ban, because..

Laus' attorney, Ed Spreha, said he believes city leaders should consider scrapping the ordinance. He said in addition to Postelle's reasoning, the city doesn't have the authority to supersede the state vehicle code.

Local governments need to know their place, or we'd end up with a confusing patchwork of laws that could be used by "You're in a heap a trouble, BOY" type cops to pick on out-of-towners.

[GreenRadar]

the whole talking on a phone while driving thing is a huge issue. I heard that some states were even considering it illegal to talk on blue tooth while driving. This was a while ago that I heard this so don't really know what ever became of it.

Personally, I would support a ban on that, because I believe it's the conversation that's distracting and not the physical act of holding the phone. But I don't support this ban, because..

Laus' attorney, Ed Spreha, said he believes city leaders should consider scrapping the ordinance. He said in addition to Postelle's reasoning, the city doesn't have the authority to supersede the state vehicle code.

Local governments need to know their place, or we'd end up with a confusing patchwork of laws that could be used by "You're in a heap a trouble, BOY" type cops to pick on out-of-towners.

If it is the conversation that is distracting then that would mean that a conversation with a person sitting right next to you or behind you should be illegal, or listening/singing with the radio should be illegal.

[supercowpowers]

the whole talking on a phone while driving thing is a huge issue. I heard that some states were even considering it illegal to talk on blue tooth while driving. This was a while ago that I heard this so don't really know what ever became of it.

Personally, I would support a ban on that, because I believe it's the conversation that's distracting and not the physical act of holding the phone. But I don't support this ban, because..

Laus' attorney, Ed Spreha, said he believes city leaders should consider scrapping the ordinance. He said in addition to Postelle's reasoning, the city doesn't have the authority to supersede the state vehicle code.

Local governments need to know their place, or we'd end up with a confusing patchwork of laws that could be used by "You're in a heap a trouble, BOY" type cops to pick on out-of-towners.

If it is the conversation that is distracting then that would mean that a conversation with a person sitting right next to you or behind you should be illegal, or listening/singing with the radio should be illegal.

Singing to the radio just requires recitation of memorized lyrics and the radio doesn't care if you stop. Low mental effort and little commitment to the task is required.

Conversations with passengers in the same space comes naturally and usually your passengers don't want to die so they're OK if you ignore them to deal with some hazardous situation. Moderate mental effort and little commitment to the task.

A conversation on a cell phone requires your brain to completely switch contexts from the driving environment to visualize the presence of the other person and think about how to respond to them. And they often care more about making sure you stop at the store to get mlik or telling you about what sort of trouble Johnny got into at school than the fact that you're trying to drive. High mental effort and high commitment to the task.

I've noticed that when I'm on the phone my attention shifts more straight down the road and closer in front of my car - I just end up reacting to situations instead of being able to look ahead and predict them. That might be alright sometimes but it seems like a lot of people don't have the discipline to recognize when they're impaired and ignore the phone.

[GreenRadar]

the whole talking on a phone while driving thing is a huge issue. I heard that some states were even considering it illegal to talk on blue tooth while driving. This was a while ago that I heard this so don't really know what ever became of it.

Personally, I would support a ban on that, because I believe it's the conversation that's distracting and not the physical act of holding the phone. But I don't support this ban, because..

Laus' attorney, Ed Spreha, said he believes city leaders should consider scrapping the ordinance. He said in addition to Postelle's reasoning, the city doesn't have the authority to supersede the state vehicle code.

Local governments need to know their place, or we'd end up with a confusing patchwork of laws that could be used by "You're in a heap a trouble, BOY" type cops to pick on out-of-towners.

If it is the conversation that is distracting then that would mean that a conversation with a person sitting right next to you or behind you should be illegal, or listening/singing with the radio should be illegal.

Singing to the radio just requires recitation of memorized lyrics and the radio doesn't care if you stop. Low mental effort and little commitment to the task is required.

Conversations with passengers in the same space comes naturally and usually your passengers don't want to die so they're OK if you ignore them to deal with some hazardous situation. Moderate mental effort and little commitment to the task.

A conversation on a cell phone requires your brain to completely switch contexts from the driving environment to visualize the presence of the other person and think about how to respond to them. And they often care more about making sure you stop at the store to get mlik or telling you about what sort of trouble Johnny got into at school than the fact that you're trying to drive. High mental effort and high commitment to the task.

I've noticed that when I'm on the phone my attention shifts more straight down the road and closer in front of my car - I just end up reacting to situations instead of being able to look ahead and predict them. That might be alright sometimes but it seems like a lot of people don't have the discipline to recognize when they're impaired and ignore the phone.

I'll admit when I would talk on my hand held phone I would be more distracted and unfortunately my concentration towards driving would drop, but when I am on my bluetooth I don't loose any more concentration then what I do when talking to a person right next to me.

[SpeedingVolvo]

Just saw on the news: a 2nd person beat their cell phone ticket.

Police chief got on the news and said they were gonna continue to enforce the ban anyway. Stupid and arrogant; thinks he can make the law and say what is illegal or not - probably banking on people not going through the time and effort to beat their tickets.