Radar Gun/Frequency ?

**GoHawks63** · 05-02-2007, 10:59 AM

I tried searching but couldn't find anything on this. Is there a thread out there that tells you the Radar gun model and the associated frequency, along with the charcteristics of that model (i.e. range, etc.)?

I've been running my 9500i in spec mode and I'm curious what I'm up against.

**jimbonzzz** · 05-02-2007, 11:09 AM

http://www.guysoflidar.com/tech.html

Although you can generally determine the manufacturer of Ka radar units based on the frequency, you can't determine individual model characteristics. X and K is all the same.

**bart99gt** · 05-02-2007, 11:13 AM

24.150 GHz +/- 100MHz is the most common K band frequency. MPH currently produces the Z-15 at 24.125 GHz, but isn't in widespread enough use to worry about.

As Jim stated, the Ka frequency just tells you who made it, but doesn't in any way give you enough information to know the exact model. Since most manufacturers have built several Ka band radars, each with different characteristics, the only way to determine exactly what they have is to physically ID the radar in question by looking at the antenna, control unit, etc..

**jimbonzzz** · 05-02-2007, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by bart99gt

MPH currently produces the Z-15 at 24.125 GHz

Oh really? Cite your source for this info please. I could see them doing this for overseas markets, but would be very surprised if they sold US units like that on purpose.

**GoHawks63** · 05-02-2007, 11:34 AM

Thanks for the link. Now the other part of my question. "Characteristics" has been mentioned a few times. What do you mean by that? Does one have a longer range? Can lock on a target further away? Is one harder to detect than another? One better for I/O vs. C/O?

**bart99gt** · 05-02-2007, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by jimbonzzz

Originally Posted by bart99gt

MPH currently produces the Z-15 at 24.125 GHz

Oh really? Cite your source for this info please. I could see them doing this for overseas markets, but would be very surprised if they sold US units like that on purpose.

I've got the spec sheets for the Z-35 and Speedgun...I had the one to the Z-15 and -25 at one point, but basically (according to these anyway) all handheld MPH guns use(d) 24.125 GHz. This could be old information now for all I know. I received this info back in 2001-2002.

Shoot me your e-mail address and I'll forward them to you.

**bart99gt** · 05-02-2007, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by GoHawks63

Thanks for the link. Now the other part of my question. "Characteristics" has been mentioned a few times. What do you mean by that? Does one have a longer range? Can lock on a target further away? Is one harder to detect than another? One better for I/O vs. C/O?

By that, I mean manufacturers build different models that may have more bells and whistles than their "base" models. Case in point, the Kustom Eagle series, which ranges from a simple front/rear, moving/stationary radar all the way to one with fastest target, same lane and directional selectivity. But in basic stationary or opposite lane moving modes, they perform identically to one another. It mainly allows them to capture a broader market than if they simply offered one high end model.

Generally, moving radars always get greater range and faster speed acquisition when used in stationary mode than in moving mode. However, with newer radars, speed acquisition is almost instantaneous regardless of what mode it is in, provided the target vehicle is within range of the unit. With older radars, there might be a brief delay in calculating the patrol speed when the radar is brought off "hold" but you're still only talking about maybe a second or two.

**GoHawks63** · 05-02-2007, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by bart99gt

Originally Posted by GoHawks63

Thanks for the link. Now the other part of my question. "Characteristics" has been mentioned a few times. What do you mean by that? Does one have a longer range? Can lock on a target further away? Is one harder to detect than another? One better for I/O vs. C/O?

By that, I mean manufacturers build different models that may have more bells and whistles than their "base" models. Case in point, the Kustom Eagle series, which ranges from a simple front/rear, moving/stationary radar all the way to one with fastest target, same lane and directional selectivity. But in basic stationary or opposite lane moving modes, they perform identically to one another. It mainly allows them to capture a broader market than if they simply offered one high end model.

Generally, moving radars always get greater range and faster speed acquisition when used in stationary mode than in moving mode. However, with newer radars, speed acquisition is almost instantaneous regardless of what mode it is in, provided the target vehicle is within range of the unit. With older radars, there might be a brief delay in calculating the patrol speed when the radar is brought off "hold" but you're still only talking about maybe a second or two.

Ah, so as a potential target of these radar guns, these characteristics really don't come into play for me. Those bells and whistles translate in features and flexability for the LEO. As a RD user, it still comes down to getting the best detector that suits my needs and driving.

Right?

**jimbonzzz** · 05-02-2007, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by GoHawks63

Ah, so as a potential target of these radar guns, these characteristics really don't come into play for me. Those bells and whistles translate in features and flexability for the LEO. As a RD user, it still comes down to getting the best detector that suits my needs and driving.

Right?

Yep, you got it :wink: