Still confused about these things

[lordhamster]

No such thing as filtering, the differences are in sensitivity thresholds.

The 9500i will automatically adjust the sensitivity of the detector based on your speed, the V1 will not. Thus the V1 will seem chattier. However, if you are stopped at a light you may not want to miss the weak x or k band blip from an instant on up ahead.

Filtering for electronics is a circuit or device that passes certain frequencies and blocks or reduces others.
There maybe no such thing as filtering for some RD's but the Belscorts definitely do. If the RD has the ability to keep KA at full sensitivity but adjust sensitivity for the other bands that would be filtering as i see it. :roll: I could be wrong. :wink:

Ok, I guess you could be right on that depending on the definition of filtering.

The reason I try to clarify is that the novice user may interpret filtering like spam filtering. They may thing that there is something about Non-leo radar sources that allows certain clever detectors to "filter" them while other less sophisticated detectors can't.

I think it should be clarified that when we say "better filtering" we are simply talking about adjusting alert thresholds.

[DogGod]

Since you said that you drive in the suburbs/city mostly I would recommend the X50. Its a very good detector, and it is a bit quieter than the Valentine in areas with more "false alerts". However when using the V1 you can change K band muting settings, and it can also become quiet. As a matter of fact when I was using my X50 and the V1 I found that with the correct programming the V1 was a bit quieter. The reason I recommended the X50 over the V1 is mainly cost, its cheaper and you can get one in your hands today.

If you are looking for something cheaper you may want to look into the mid level BEL's and the higher end Whistlers. I have a V955 and it is an awesome detector, plus its under $200.

Ive never used the RX65 or the 9500i, but I have heard great things about both of them. I personally could not trust the 9500i because I think escort is trying to do to many things with this model. I am sure that once they get all the bugs worked out, it will be a great detector for places you drive a lot.

[CJR238]

Ok, I guess you could be right on that depending on the definition of filtering.

The reason I try to clarify is that the novice user may interpret filtering like spam filtering. They may thing that there is something about Non-leo radar sources that allows certain clever detectors to "filter" them while other less sophisticated detectors can't.

I think it should be clarified that when we say "better filtering" we are simply talking about adjusting alert thresholds.

X2

[CJR238]

If you want one that locks and blocks out the entire band for NON-LEO openers in a given area and you might miss a real LEO signal, get a 9500i

Holy c$@p it doesn’t lock out the whole band!

I hate to go down this rout but im tired of hearing comments about things people know nothing about...

TrueLock on the 9500i allows you to lock out approximately +/- 30MHz wide blocks of false radar sources in each band (Does not lock out whole band). The 9500i cannot lock out Ka band signals (presently there are no typical falsing sources such as door openers or motion sensors that are Ka band signals).

K-Band is split into approximately eight segments of +/- 30MHz, derived from the received radar frequency. Like so:



X-Band is split into segments as well, and derived the same way.

When you get a 'alert' for a door opener, it's NOT a false alert, it's a NON-LEO.

I don’t know about you but I never see LEO's with wallmarts strapped to the hoods and never moving out of a parking lot. Call it what you will (false alert, non LEO, door opener) but I have never gotten a ticket from a door opener.

:wink: have a nice day 8)

[Spinner55]

Hello,

Thank you for correcting me. It was late at night and I forgot that it only locks a portion of the band. I should have said " it locks out the non-LEO signal in that portion of the band, IF there is a LEO on the same 'locked out channel' you will not get a alert."

Other then that slight mistake (no worst then all the non-V1 owners stating it is so much more 'chatty' then their detector) It stand by what I posted.

(a non-V1 will be more quite, since it V1 has 2 antennas, it also 'sees' more area due to it having 2 antennas or horns).

Again thank you for correcting my statement and have a great day.

Spin

[CJR238]

Hello,

Thank you for correcting me. It was late at night and I forgot that it only locks a portion of the band. I should have said " it locks out the non-LEO signal in that portion of the band, IF there is a LEO on the same 'locked out channel' you will not get a alert."

Other then that slight mistake (no worst then all the non-V1 owners stating it is so much more 'chatty' then their detector) It stand by what I posted.

(a non-V1 will be more quite, since it V1 has 2 antennas, it also 'sees' more area due to it having 2 antennas or horns).

Again thank you for correcting my statement and have a great day.

Spin

x2 :wink:

[decemb3r]

I've had the RX65 and currently use the V1. I chose the V1 over the RX65 after having the RX65 because I do alot of highway driving from Norman to Dallas. I've driven alot around Dallas and the V1 does go off once in a while but its not as annoying as it may seem. If you drive maybe 5 miles through a populated area of shopping centers, you'll probably get max 2 door openers. The good thing about the V1 is the arrows and by combining arrows with the strength bar you can just eliminate it easily. Also, the fact that the V1 has a rear antenna is a relieving feeling in case LEOs approach from the back (which has happened often) and with a x50 you won't get as great of an early detection. But if you want something quiet and don't want to worry about eliminating falses yourself, just go with the RX65 or x50. Don't get 9500i.

[Scott P]

It looks like I'll be going for the V1. Now I just have to muster up the desire to spend $400 with the holidays coming up.

[CJR238]

It looks like I'll be going for the V1. Now I just have to muster up the desire to spend $400 with the holidays coming up.

Good choice! And there are some settings other V1 owners can tell you to help quiet down the V1. Drive with it with out changing anything for a few weeks 1st though.

[amoney]

What made me spend the money on a V1... actually pretty simple Belscort have raised there prices so much so that they cost as much if not more for their premium detectors in comparison with the V1. Now that price is relatively the same, and the V1 haveing the edge sensitivity wise, then throw in the directional arrows. Well it was a pretty simple decision for me. V1 kept there prices the same, never obsolete, the other manufactures really have pushed buisness the other way. But then again they flood the market with detectors so they do not care that much. But I bet Mike V is happy.

Having just got my V1 and running with advance logic (L) mode, it was just as quiet as my older Bel. I was impressed, I was very worried that it would be too chatty. Bear in mind I understand some circumstances it WILL be more chatty because of the dual antennas. But being a season RD user I understand the way these devices function and expected behavior. Its all a matter of filters, Belscort have a preset to make them seem more quieter than V1, but you can customise a V1 to be just the same, perhaps even more quieter then the competition. The only thing I am going to miss is the TECH mode. particularly for Ka mode. But I have arrows now!