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    rabbit? more like "the pack" - any rabbit doing only 15-20mph over the PSL will have a large following. So your distance back is determined by where you want to be in the pack. My answer is when you see a pack approaching from behind - let it roll.

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    Here in South Jersey there are no rabbits, in the morning rush on I-295 between Trenton & Cherry Hill everyone drives between 70-90 anyway and when its slower during the day (non-rush hour) everyone still does 75-80 :wink:

    Oh wait, a friend of mine who drives a civic with a Cobra, thinks hes invisible to police, so he does 110 all the way up 295, I usually use him as a rabbit.... :twisted:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djonemore
    Here in South Jersey there are no rabbits, in the morning rush on I-295 between Trenton & Cherry Hill everyone drives between 70-90 anyway and when its slower during the day (non-rush hour) everyone still does 75-80 :wink:

    Oh wait, a friend of mine who drives a civic with a Cobra, thinks hes invisible to police, so he does 110 all the way up 295, I usually use him as a rabbit.... :twisted:
    At first glance, I thought he was driving a Cobra. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by zappy
    rabbit? more like "the pack" - any rabbit doing only 15-20mph over the PSL will have a large following. So your distance back is determined by where you want to be in the pack. My answer is when you see a pack approaching from behind - let it roll.
    so that is why there is always a group of people behind me. a year ago my friend kept freaking out. we drove from oakland to LA down I-5 and he kept telling me he would see this lexis out of the corner of his eye looking back and he said the person in the lexis was following me and might be a stalker. i just kind of laughed at him. then he told me the person was going to all the same gas stations as us. i finally asked him to point the car out at a gas station and he pointed to it. i was like, 'lets go over there and say hi' and he FLIPPED out. he was soo paranoid. i had to explain to him that because i was going around 110 or so mph the entire trip people would be following me so they could avoid getting a ticket. he didn't quite get it. *sigh*

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    "Wolf packs" carry their own dangers.....

    Drivers who are not skilled - or courteous - enough to follow in such a close formation is a potential problem, as is "improper equipment" (having an SUV looming right behind you, when your car can get down to speed in less than a quarter of their braking distance, is just one such illustration).

    The other is the possibility of the entire pack being hunted down by a speedtrap. :shock: Yep, I've seen it happen.....

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    I think most posts already covered it, but another factor depends on what you are driving and what the rabbit is.

    I will state the obvious.

    If you are driving the fluorescent attention getting sports car then distance is virtually a moot point. If the rabbit is discrete family sedan type not being obvious about speeding, the longer the distance the better, and it may be a moot point.

    If you are in the family sedan discretely following a fluorescent sports car with a flagpole wing, you could probably be only two car lengths away.

    Another factor is how much attention you are paying to rabbit and surroundings. The more attention you are paying to both, the further away you can be with the same odds.

    On the open highway I like to have the tail lights mostly in view. If there is other traffic around they should also flash taillights if they spot or react to something. My speed and distance varies with terrain and traffic on the open road, sometimes need to get closer for a better view, other times the rabbit gets away for a short while.

    At night mostly and some times during the day, with 20-30 cars per mile and a rabbit PSL +10-15, I have had a LEO skip the rabbit, but I was far enough away that I picked up the interval or he skipped us both. The best was a 3/4 mile rabbit and a ~1.5 mile LEO. I saw brake lights as my RD went off.

    Multiple rabbits are always best so check for rabbits behind when you find the first one. That is also a good check for a pacing LEO. I was saved by waiting once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkquat
    If you are driving the fluorescent attention getting sports car then distance is virtually a moot point.
    Like say, for instance, a fire-engine red sport bike? In theory, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSi+WRX
    The other is the possibility of the entire pack being hunted down by a speedtrap. :shock: Yep, I've seen it happen.....
    i had that happen once. it was funny. i was driving down the grapevine and on my cellphone asking for instructions on were to go. as I was talking to him on the phone every single car, one at a time, got pulled over. There was at least 6 cops. I wasn't paying enough attention and i was in the center lane going the slowest because I was on my cell phone. Anyways, by the time the conversation ended on the phone I looked around and realized there was no cars around me. I then realized I was going 85mph in a 35mph zone (i think if I remember right) and I slowed down. If there was one more officer on duty at the time I would have gotten a ticket.

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    Maybe they pointed you out and you didn't see them as you were giving directions - however you do say you were going slower than everyone else, but hey thats a pretty good excuse! Oops sorry officer I didn't know you were pointing at me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDS
    The only purpose of a rabbit is to draw LIDAR and IO hits, and if I'm gonna pick those up, I don't want to be back half a mile.
    Don't forget VASCAR and pacing. I want to be close enough to hopefully get a radar alert and/or see his brake lights, but far enough back to see a cop react to him before spotting me. I try for around 1/4 mile, but sometimes a bit closer. It can get difficult to judge the rabbit's speed if he's too far out. This weekend I let a rabbit get too far ahead and lost a perfectly good 95-100 MPH rabbit in traffic.

 

 

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