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    Default POP question

    I heard that POP isn't used in the USA? I'm debating turning it off (thought I travel between NY, CT, PA, NJ frequently). Should I be worried? Will I get increased performance? Thanks! I tried searching and couldn't find anything definitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OPTiK View Post
    I heard that POP isn't used in the USA? I'm debating turning it off (thought I travel between NY, CT, PA, NJ frequently). Should I be worried? Will I get increased performance? Thanks! I tried searching and couldn't find anything definitive.
    POP is used in USA.....
    Most of us have POP off...

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    Default Re: POP question

    POP capable units are used in the USA... as for POP actually being used on these units... that is rather unlikely...



    I travel in those same states with some frequency (except NJ) and I leave POP off every-time on every RD.

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    The only point of turning POP off is to reduce J-out falses. There is no other benefit. If you're not getting an alarmingly annoying amount of J-outs, then there is no point in it. Most people turn it off simply because they have some bizarre psychological need to screw with stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OPTiK View Post
    Will I get increased performance?
    I am a newbie at this but its really pretty simple. Don't confuse short I/O with pop. Short I/O is just a smart leo using any band trying to defeat radar detector. Pop however is used only on certain frequency. If you turn on radar detector pop detection, it will look for that frequency more closely and will have less time for other frequencies.
    I looked at GOL and they weren't definitive about v1 pop mode but my personal testing increases the range atleast against 35.5 when pop is turned off.

    When in doubt, do what the experts tell you. I think most here are on agreement about pop off. On the other hand experts have different opinions also

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    Quote Originally Posted by bilybob View Post
    If you turn on radar detector pop detection, it will look for that frequency more closely and will have less time for other frequencies.
    I'm not one of the experts, but I don't believe this is correct. I believe enabling and disabling POP is just like enabling or disabling a band. It does not change what the detector looks for. It only changes what it reports.

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    I leave POP on. I've found it performs better against I/O.

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    Turning off POP is like training your guard dog to only bark at blacks, because you think white people aren't a threat.

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    Smile Re: POP question

    Gosh, I see things in a different light. When I'm driving I like to be able to detect anything that can be shot at me to monitor my speed. I don't care if it's X band or Laser, all of my research shows that it's very possible that any of these devices might be used on the interstates near me, and at any time night or day.

    I have been using a V1 I bought in 2003. I had no idea that the V1s where improved to the point they have been so soon. I just had my V1 upgraded mainly due to the POP threat. MPH recently sold a bunch of the Bee III radars to one state, and I am hearing that many other states have such guns made by MPH. My problem is trusting the LEO using such a gun. Most police officers I have meet seem to be good cops, yet I have meet some that were bad apples. I would hate to think I could get a ticket based only on a POP burst that my radar detector did not detect in use in moderate traffic.

    I read about a MPH gun known as a K-35... I think. Whatever the models are called, I have read that there is at least one or more guns that when used in POP mode may not be detected by the top of line detectors, all because MPH has been reported to be making faster and faster guns that make it very difficult for a radar detector to pick up in POP mode. I would love to see a video on you tube of the top of the line detectors being tested with the fastest MPH guns in POP mode. I have only seen 2 or 3 such models be tested so far.

    My research says that there are enough of these guns out there that I choose to leave my POP setting ON.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth Stalker View Post
    Turning off POP is like training your guard dog to only bark at blacks, because you think white people aren't a threat.
    A better analogy: Turning on POP is like always taking an umbrella with you to protect you from a meteor strike.
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