Single V1 Cant "See" to the Rear...Can I Use TWO

[cwlondon]

I like my V1 and just like the ad says, dont know how I ever used a detector without the arrows.

What is difficult, however, it mounting the Valentine on my motorbike.

Since the visual display seems easy to open and modify, I was hoping I might do the same with the unit, to perhaps somehow separate the antennae and give the rear facing antenna a clear view of the road to the rear.

This does not seem so straitforward, however. Is there anything else I can do?

Is there any way I can buy TWO V1 units, but just a single visual display?

This sounds expensive and complicated, but I really dont want to give up the arrows and my legs and body block the view to the rear on the bike.

Oh one other thing - I dont want to use a bracket on the rear view mirror or something...

I want a permanent, hard wired, weatherproof STEALTH solution for maximum front coverage and maximum rear coverage

Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

best

cwlondon

[AirMoore]

As I have said before the V1 is NOT a good detector for a bike... its detection is good, but the expenses to make it worthwhile...outlandish.


I would not advise taking apart a 400(plus) dollar radar detector unit, and try to 'cob-job' it to make it work better on a bike anyways, voiding things in the process.


Buying 2 v1's for a single bike = no. (For various reasons).


The main thing you can do for the V1 if you still want to keep its arrows decently effective is to mount as far away from your body as possible (normally well down the windshield)... This increases rear detection range, and helps in more accurate arrows. Mike V explains (shows) this on the V1 website.

The V1 display being the red color (even the remote display placed in the best of locations) will disappear... the red will get owned by direct sunlight.


Honeslty I can't say it anymore clear... if your deadset on using a V1 on a bike... use a single V1 mounted on your windscreen as far away from you as possible.... without blocking the V1 laser sensors front view, and without blocking your bikes gauges.

I believe you posted somewhere else you have the V1 audiojack adaptor (another $50), and the remote display (another $30), so use both of them to your advantage, and put them into play, however the remote display wont help as it will dissapear in the (direct) sun anyways, just like the normal main display, with the intensity of direct sun encountered on motorcycles.

[crazyVOLVOrob]

1 V1 is all you need

[jimbonzzz]

Front and rear antennas on the V1 are integrated, there's no way to take apart the unit and separate them.



Also, there's no way to use two units with one remote display.

Jim

[cwlondon]

Airmoore

Yes, I read your other post. And I dont see myself as so gung ho on the V1, but just really do like the directional arrows.

I have already spent the $500 or so (+ FedEx), and now it is just sitting in the garage because it got so flaky when it got wet.

So thats why I have been thinking of modifying it., weatherproofing it etc.

If not the V1, what detector would you recommend?

Is the Beltronics? Well, that looks like the remote is DOUBLE the already high price of the V1.

To be honest, I dont care - just need the best, most bulletrproof protection - to the front AND the rear (Palisades Parkway NJ)

This is not about price.

crazy volvo rob

thanks for your point, but why only 1 V1?

Is this because the "rear" lens doesnt really work anyway?

If I mount it as airmoore suggest, the "rear lens" will be aiming right at my chest and abdomen when riding the bike.

Any more clues appreicated. Again, I dont mind spending the big bucks here.. I just mind getting tickets, and wasting time and seeing my insurance premiums soar.

Thanks.

If

[AirMoore]

Airmoore

Yes, I read your other post. And I dont see myself as so gung ho on the V1, but just really do like the directional arrows.

I have already spent the $500 or so (+ FedEx), and now it is just sitting in the garage because it got so flaky when it got wet.

So thats why I have been thinking of modifying it., weatherproofing it etc.

If not the V1, what detector would you recommend?

The Escort Passport X50 (Blue)... The detector already has:
A built in headphone jack (Audio alerts)
The blue display which is the only display that in the direct sunlight conditions on a motorcycle can be seen (Visual alerts)...

It can be had for $100-150 less then the V1 equipped with the remote display and the headphone jack adaptor, and as I said the remote display even though it helps... it will dissapear anyways in the sunlight, so the blue is the only solution to receive visual information... (Pending other products like SportVue)

And the V1's rear detection is severly limited (not to mention the arrows) when used on a motorcycle due to the very extensive problem of the rider... so it nearly becomes a single antenna (radar) unit just like its high end competitors...

Quick little story: A rider I know told me he was riding at night with his V1, and it showed a Ka signal ahead ... so he slowed down to about 32ish (in the city, actually starting to leave it), and this continued for a long time, he said around 3 minutes through some decent curves and it just kept getting stronger (very slowely)... he was shocked at the range... well he started to check his mirrors more and more suspecting that the arrows were messed up... sure enough he got a glimpse (from light off a gas station) of reflective tape from a NYST from the rear well the arrows pointed ahead.

Point is the arrows completely misdirected him because the radar signal was bouncing off the buildings and signs ahead of him back to the front antenna and his body blocked the rear significantly (even though its mounted where VR says too)... it was only until the trooper was 50feet behind him that the arrows switched to rear... that is a dangerous proposition. Misdirectional arrows are MUCH more dangerous then no arrows at all. Point is the V1 essentially becomes you average single front antenna detector on a bike... yes it does have slightly better rear detection, but be careful. The V1 is an amazing detector for a car, but can be confused on a bike.






AS for waterproofing and all that I would suggest (again) taking it down in incliment weather, all dashmount detectors where made for that... a car dash, and they are not friends of such weather.

Use only 1 V1 because 2 may ever so slightly intefeer with each other(offering shabby detection compared to a signal V1), and not to mention, you cant integrate a visual display for both units into one... you would be spending a fortune between another V1 and audio jack adaptor that just wouldnt be plausible.

Its not my suggestion how you mount your detector on a motorcycle... that is the opinion MIKE VALENTINE himself. :wink:

[crazyVOLVOrob]

the rear radar antenna is hardly blocked by the human body...radio waves can travel through the human body.....Plus the V1 has two radar antenna's front and back you are well covered with that

[AirMoore]

the rear radar antenna is hardly blocked by the human body...radio waves can travel through the human body.....Plus the V1 has two radar antenna's front and back you are well covered with that

Again, it is blocked by the human body (I know radar waves can (somewhat) pass through (thin) things such as water -humans- and plastic -fairings- and glass, but it does not help the detection Rob, it impares it)

... which can upset the arrows, it doesnt have to be blocked a lot to significantly decrease the detection range and mess up the arrows... this is preciesly what the above story shows, and why Mike V himself tells you to mount it as far up as possible because the body is an issue.

Again if you read my post I say the rear detection is still better then its single antenna competitors... but it does level the playing field...

Again this isnt my opinion guys its Mike Valentine saying were to mount and that the body is an issue! (Go to the V1 site and check it out)... I would post the link but its against forum policy.

[crazyVOLVOrob]

It hardly impairs it' The humna body will impair rear detection as much as a rear window

[AirMoore]

It hardly impairs it' The humna body will impair rear detection as much as a rear window

Again it impares it, as I am sure you saw from the V1 website... there is no reason to argue, the rear reception on the V1 is limited by the body in the way of it... just how much no one can tell... but one thing is for certain the VR website says the body is an issue, and it obviously wont help...

But there is no reason for us to hijack the thread on this one Rob, I think we can agree it impares the rear reception... to what extent is the issue, and it really is a moot point.

The point of the thread is what can be done to maximize the V1's effectiveness on his bike... which would be using a single V1 mounted on the front windscreen, as far forward as possible without blocking gauges, use the earphone jack accesory to recieve audio alerts... the concealed remote display somewhere to try and recieve visual alerts (wont work in the sun very well but he has it so might as well use it)... and he should not use the V1 in incliment weather.