Escort ticks me off(skrewing us with the 8500 I feel duped)

**stalker** · 07-30-2005, 08:09 AM

yep, id say this is as good as RMR saying their jammers work. I own a Bel and am personally annoyed at their practices. Absolute crap.

**aust3333** · 07-30-2005, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by stalker

yep, id say this is as good as RMR saying their jammers work. I own a Bel and am personally annoyed at their practices. Absolute crap.

I totally agree with you Stalker. I have had my RX65 for about two weeks and Bel has assured me that if new threats arise that they will upgrade. I take this like a grain of salt because everyone I seem to speak to at Bel tells me that revisions don't matter. I told them that I wanted the latest revision, and they explained that the revisions are just a way for their engineers to identify the RX65. Smells like BS to me. If this is the case then why are there different revisions? Should only be one revision if it's true what they are saying. Just like with computer motherboards, there are different revisions in which certain upgrades and bugs were fixed. I know that there is a difference between revision 4.5 and 3.6 but Bel won't disclose what it is. I think it is a shame that we spend a lot of money on these detectors and we are short changed later on down the road. If and when a new threat emerges, I am going to raise hell with Bel if and upgrade is not offered.

**lordhamster** · 07-30-2005, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by aust3333

Originally Posted by stalker

yep, id say this is as good as RMR saying their jammers work. I own a Bel and am personally annoyed at their practices. Absolute crap.

I totally agree with you Stalker. I have had my RX65 for about two weeks and Bel has assured me that if new threats arise that they will upgrade. I take this like a grain of salt because everyone I seem to speak to at Bel tells me that revisions don't matter. I told them that I wanted the latest revision, and they explained that the revisions are just a way for their engineers to identify the RX65. Smells like BS to me. If this is the case then why are there different revisions? Should only be one revision if it's true what they are saying. Just like with computer motherboards, there are different revisions in which certain upgrades and bugs were fixed. I know that there is a difference between revision 4.5 and 3.6 but Bel won't disclose what it is. I think it is a shame that we spend a lot of money on these detectors and we are short changed later on down the road. If and when a new threat emerges, I am going to raise hell with Bel if and upgrade is not offered.

This would not be a problem if the upgradeability wasn't one of their biggest selling points.

The valentine is very expensive, and upgrades cost cash, but at least its What you see is what you get... very clear upgrade path advertised on their site.

Pre-Pop 1.8 -> current = $55
8500 (pre-pop) to x50 (post pop) = Price of new detector -$30.

I have to say, I was actually shocked when they came out with an X50 but offered no proper upgrade path.

**SmaartAasSaabr** · 07-30-2005, 10:39 AM

What can be done with the Escorts and Bels is to sell the units and purchase a new one. Still costs you more than a few dollars. However, doing this practice with a Valentine One usually ends up in you netting a profit (!) and having new units.

I used to use a Bel detector, and never even contacted Belscort once about it. However, I am likely to own another, and wonder if the famous customer service offered by the company will affect me...

**RacerX** · 07-30-2005, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by lordhamster

....The 8500 said software upgradeable to handle any future threats... well the future threats came, pop and KU and OBIOUSLY it was not software upgradeable... in fact I belive they never had any intention of offering an upgrade path, since there is no upgrade address, or portion on their website.

Yeah, i remember the same thing when i was looking to upgrade.
Now i never called them, but even if i did, i would have said forget it for 30 bucks. i can keep it as a backup, or probably get more than that on ebay.

I think the top 3. (well top 2, Belscort and VR), have become somewhat complacent with their customer service and products. With the exception of the V1's Laser performance, i'm not overly impressed with anyone at this point.
I would love to see someone like Whistler come out with something that takes the best of all 3 and then takes a big financial chunk out of their butts. then maybe they'll get back to coming out with the next greatest and remember that happy customers are repeat customers that also spread the word about what they have, leading to more happy customers.

**glockman30** · 07-30-2005, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by PassportToSpeed

I've heard this a few times and sorry about that for you. I believe the 8500 was "software upgradable" same as the X50 is now. I presume the reason why you couldnt upgrade to pop is because it has to do with the hardware and not the software. Try to think about it this way. If you bought yours in 01, the V1 has had software and hardware revisions since then that you pay for each time (well after the warranty period) the money that you saved during that time is close to being able to buy the x50. Crunch the numbers of the revisions plus the extra $100 you spent extra for a v1 back in 01 and in those 4 years you could have an 8500 new in 01 and an x50 new in 05.

I know I had a x50 blue for 14 months and when I sold it I lost $90 and two months out of warranty I paid $60 to have it updated/fixed. I have heard a lot of people having problems wth their Belscort products on this website. I knew KU was coming and I was not going to take a chance of getting nothing for my "upgradeable" x50 when it became obsolete with no KU band detection. Also Escort's customer service is terrible. There is also the issue of the x50 not picking up quick triggered KA in Jammer Tests's videos. There are some assumptions here, but for piece of mind I sold mine on ebay and I am looking at buying the V1.

**Hessen** · 07-30-2005, 07:20 PM

Belscort are BOLD FACED LIARS........same deal with my Bel Vector 985.
Everytime I contacted them all I got was scripted and rehearsed BULL$HIT.

I just bought a new RD.......a V1.

**Radar Roy** · 07-30-2005, 07:32 PM

Ok guys I understand your concerns but...

You go to the store, buy brand name computer with all the latest gadgets and the newest CPU. Lets call it model a-1.

The company advertises that all software upgrades for THIS computer you bought are free from all threats.

Well NEW threat emerges, software update itself cannot stop this threat, it takes a new CPU and motherboard change.

Computer manufacture redesigns their computer with new CPU, motherboard, and software. New computer a-1-x50

Now are you entitled to an “free upgrade” for this new computer, think not..

**stalker** · 07-30-2005, 07:41 PM

I have to disagree with you Roy, buy Nortons Antivirus, that comes with free upgrades as new threats arise as advetised by nortons, now Bel and Escort both say their detectors are "software Upgradable" as new threats arive but then when you call them they say it cant be one.

Sounds like alot of false claims to me.

Yes i own a Bel but I am as annoyed as everyone else on here about their false claims.

As much as i hate the look of V1, at least i can upgrade it...hey I dont mind paying bel for an upgrade...but they still wont do it.