REDLINE, V1, X50, STi Testing VIDEO.

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ReVeal,

Here is a link to a better forum for you, I think they would wecome your post.

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[ReVeaL]

Much to learn you have newb, much to learn you do.

1)Your assertion is that KaPro is for some-reason bias TOWARDS the V1 which he doesn't even own. He has in the passed, but has since moved onto the Bel Sti. Why in the world would he have any reason to back the V1.

Where is this comment coming from?? I never said your name Once.
Show and prove that I mention your name. I never said whom back whom or did what. This number 2 statement your making is off base. You come at me like that, you will get wrath back. Trust me: Your name never came on this forum especially form me saying AirMoore backs V1. Answer me this: Is that you in the car in the Video????

2) Your assertion is I back the V1..... OBVIOUSLY you haven't been on here for very long at all... BV and I had near wars about V1 vs Escort detectors... him being pro V1, and I being pro Belscort... of course I owned, and currently own both (certain Belscorts anyways), so I ehhhmmm ahhh NVM.

This number 3 is BS. I seen other videos that prove otherwise.
You can make this comment from till now till the end of year.
I ask for proven facts. By further videos, if you can't handle that don't come
in the kitchen

3) The videos don't lie? The Redline IMO hasn't out performed the V1 on any margin of 'off the charts' on any tests I have seen.


This proves nothing: The fact that you willing come at me like this further proves you for ONE! Maybe not Kapro and I will continue to go down the line.
this proves you! are not bias. You do not want a fair assessment period.
I read your comments, many of you them and you are not in favor of Redline.

4) KaPro puts more miles on his truck with radar detectors then most anyone I know on this forum, and I know for a fact that where he was driving with the Redline, he covered virtually every sort of environmental terrain that is possible, and some of the toughest enforcement tactics known to us in the hobby (IE: NYST).


Proves I'm a JOKER?? I'm just the only appears not afraid to stand up to you all. I have no problem doing it, I'm asking for FACTS. Further test.
That is all I'm asking and gave credit to the video. I'm getting tired of hearing you all go on and on about V1 this and that and not giving Redline a fair chance... period.

5) YOUR neutral? Your not even known on the forum, your a joker at this point... where are all of your tests vs the V1/X50/Sti/Redline etc? If your the only one out there who can be unbiased? When I see your videos, then I will take heed of your word.


Your 6th Post proves you are a Joke. I never said Arrows on the V1 cancel each other out. I said the Quicktrigger and Spectre is actuality cancels. Period because they both lead to you getting a ticket.
That is just a fact. Now read your 6th post, no where did I said arrows were canceled out by anything. I said quickTrigger. Now let me know now, if the Arrows on the V1 are QuickTrigger, let me know now, and I will stand corrected. If the QuickerTrigger and the arrows are different then my point is well proven.

6) How does Spectre immunity and arrows cancel each other out? The Spectre immunity is useless to most all members of the forum, and the spectre immunity can be had for ~$30 less on the Sti... which seems to have similar detection.


I see Ban him posts coming.


WOW I should be ban for asking for a fair assessment.
Ban for believing really in RadarRoy. That is a weak

[<<JAZZY>>]

Much to learn you have newb, much to learn you do.

1)Your assertion is that KaPro is for some-reason bias TOWARDS the V1 which he doesn't even own. He has in the passed, but has since moved onto the Bel Sti. Why in the world would he have any reason to back the V1.

Where is this comment coming from?? I never said your name Once.
Show and prove that I mention your name. I never said whom back whom or did what. This number 2 statement your making is off base. You come at me like that, you will get wrath back. Trust me: Your name never came on this forum especially form me saying AirMoore backs V1. Answer me this: Is that you in the car in the Video????

2) Your assertion is I back the V1..... OBVIOUSLY you haven't been on here for very long at all... BV and I had near wars about V1 vs Escort detectors... him being pro V1, and I being pro Belscort... of course I owned, and currently own both (certain Belscorts anyways), so I ehhhmmm ahhh NVM.

This number 3 is BS. I seen other videos that prove otherwise.
You can make this comment from till now till the end of year.
I ask for proven facts. By further videos, if you can't handle that don't come
in the kitchen

3) The videos don't lie? The Redline IMO hasn't out performed the V1 on any margin of 'off the charts' on any tests I have seen.


This proves nothing: The fact that you willing come at me like this further proves you for ONE! Maybe not Kapro and I will continue to go down the line.
this proves you! are not bias. You do not want a fair assessment period.
I read your comments, many of you them and you are not in favor of Redline.

4) KaPro puts more miles on his truck with radar detectors then most anyone I know on this forum, and I know for a fact that where he was driving with the Redline, he covered virtually every sort of environmental terrain that is possible, and some of the toughest enforcement tactics known to us in the hobby (IE: NYST).


Proves I'm a JOKER?? I'm just the only appears not afraid to stand up to you all. I have no problem doing it, I'm asking for FACTS. Further test.
That is all I'm asking and gave credit to the video. I'm getting tired of hearing you all go on and on about V1 this and that and not giving Redline a fair chance... period.

5) YOUR neutral? Your not even known on the forum, your a joker at this point... where are all of your tests vs the V1/X50/Sti/Redline etc? If your the only one out there who can be unbiased? When I see your videos, then I will take heed of your word.


Your 6th Post proves you are a Joke. I never said Arrows on the V1 cancel each other out. I said the Quicktrigger and Spectre is actuality cancels. Period because they both lead to you getting a ticket.
That is just a fact. Now read your 6th post, no where did I said arrows were canceled out by anything. I said quickTrigger. Now let me know now, if the Arrows on the V1 are QuickTrigger, let me know now, and I will stand corrected. If the QuickerTrigger and the arrows are different then my point is well proven.

6) How does Spectre immunity and arrows cancel each other out? The Spectre immunity is useless to most all members of the forum, and the spectre immunity can be had for ~$30 less on the Sti... which seems to have similar detection.


I see Ban him posts coming.


WOW I should be ban for asking for a fair assessment.
Ban for believing really in RadarRoy. That is a weak

You "seen" other videos but those videos are by SpeedTrapHunter aka VeilGuy who is a very smart guy and a respected member of this forum. He received a Redline before they were officially released so it could have been juiced or the cream of the crop pulled off of the assembly line. You keep talking about all of those videos like they are proof that the Redline owns the V1 but that isn't reality. Reality is that you shouldn't test more than one detector at a time because they interfere with each other and the Redline was not a blind purchase so you can't trust the results.

Everybody may seem cynical to you when it comes to new Escort and Bel products but that is based on the reality of what we have already seen from Belscort. The Escort 8500 was advertised as being upgradeable to the latest threats then the Escort 8500 X50 came out but you couldn't upgrade your 8500 to the 8500 X50. The 8500 X50 was advertised as being upgradeable to the latest threats then along came the Escort 9500i and you couldn't upgrade again. Then came the Escort 9500ix so everybody wanted to upgrade their Escort 9500i to it but Escort failed to mention beforehand that it would cost you something like $140.

Escort also advertised how the Escort 8500 X50 had full POP radar detection but it really only detected 67 ms Ka POP radar about 40&#37; of the time and 67 ms K POP radar 0% of the time. We know that Craig Peterson from RadarTest.com is a shill for Belscort products and was caught redhanded trying to screw up the GOL testing so we have seen how a big company operates. It's amazing that Belscort knows what this dummy did but they still have his "unbiased" reviews on their sites.

It is human nature to not believe what big companies like Belscort tell you because they want to sell, sell, sell you any and everything from $300-$1600 as long as you open your wallet today. I don't believe anything unless I see it in videos and testing from multiple people on this forum and not from a person with a pre-released product or an individual that sells radar detectors.

You say that Spectre and QT cancel each other out? Having a detector that is undetectable by Spectre is only useful if you live in one state or you are a big truck driver. The ability to detect QT is useful in every state because every cop could potentially use it and you would never detect it with a Belscort.

I hope you hang around so that you can see who the respected members of this forum are because you have much to learn young grasshopper.

[v1user]

Jazzy still hasn't blinked. J, Did you see in the how to beat your ticket section somebody with a 9500 got a qt ticket? no alert.

[Offshore]

<<JAZZY>> you the man.

[TSi+WRX]

ReVeaL -

I can't even begin to formulate a response to your criticisms and skepticism, with the exception of reciting what BullyDawg19 suggested:

Search.

Do your homework, do your reading.

There's no conspiracy here.

There's no anti-Escort agenda.

If you choose not to believe the videos of our fellow hobbyists, that's fine - and yes, there's always the potential that such videos have been "doctored," but if that's how you choose to see thngs, then you cannot admit ANY such videos as unquestionable evidence, be it in favor of your arguments, or against.

At some point, you will have to simply trust in the credibility and honor of the known fixtures in our community.

The recognized legitimate hobbyist groups such as the GOL, trusted insiders like VEIL Guy, established enthusiasts such as ELVATO, Cbr, Airmoore and KaPro (BTW, thanks, you two, for taking the time and effort for the vids on this thread!!! )

Or else, you will simply have to discount everything.

And if the latter is the case, then only one logical question remains:

Why are you here at all?

Yes, you're right - some of those who have been contributing to these threads are V1 "Zombies."

But given how Escort marketed the RedLine as a "King of the Road," as a "V1 killer," and how the select pre-release hype built things up to be, I think that it's only fair that these fanboys and fangals have their day in the sun, to gloat over the fact that the RedLine is *NOT* all that it was claimed to be. Heck, if I were in their tribe, more than likely, even I wouldn't be able to resist a "see, I told you so!"

However, if you look closely, you'll also see that some of the RedLine's harshest critics - the ones who express the biggest disappointment for its currently observed performance - are also true long-time supporters of Escort's products.

[nine_c1]

You "seen" other videos but those videos are by SpeedTrapHunter aka VeilGuy who is a very smart guy and a respected member of this forum. He received a Redline before they were officially released so it could have been juiced or the cream of the crop pulled off of the assembly line. You keep talking about all of those videos like they are proof that the Redline owns the V1 but that isn't reality. Reality is that you shouldn't test more than one detector at a time because they interfere with each other and the Redline was not a blind purchase so you can't trust the results.

I don't think Veil Guy got suckered with a juiced unit. The RedLine in his videos looks to be on par with videos posted by other members.......ie. no 13 mile detections and the V1 still alerts first on several occasions.

Everybody may seem cynical to you when it comes to new Escort and Bel products but that is based on the reality of what we have already seen from Belscort. The Escort 8500 was advertised as being upgradeable to the latest threats then the Escort 8500 X50 came out but you couldn't upgrade your 8500 to the 8500 X50. The 8500 X50 was advertised as being upgradeable to the latest threats then along came the Escort 9500i and you couldn't upgrade again. Then came the Escort 9500ix so everybody wanted to upgrade their Escort 9500i to it but Escort failed to mention beforehand that it would cost you something like $140.

+1 You forgot TSR. Customers with the ESP Gold package get free upgrades to new radar threats. But since TSR is technically not a real threat......just an annoyance......pay up buddy.

Escort also advertised how the Escort 8500 X50 had full POP radar detection but it really only detected 67 ms Ka POP radar about 40&#37; of the time and 67 ms K POP radar 0% of the time. We know that Craig Peterson from RadarTest.com is a shill for Belscort products and was caught redhanded trying to screw up the GOL testing so we have seen how a big company operates. It's amazing that Belscort knows what this dummy did but they still have his "unbiased" reviews on their sites.

POP never really took off as they expected but what the heck......they still put it on every one of their RDs. QT is not an approved method of obtaining speed readings.........just tell this to the POPO and they will let you go.

It is human nature to not believe what big companies like Belscort tell you because they want to sell, sell, sell you any and everything from $300-$1600 as long as you open your wallet today. I don't believe anything unless I see it in videos and testing from multiple people on this forum and not from a person with a pre-released product or an individual that sells radar detectors.

I have no problem buying a new RD every 2-3 years as long as there is real advancement and features in the offering. Consider it my donation to the continued improvement of Radar/Laser detection. I agree that they should dispense with the empty promises of "upgradibility" (is that a word?). Props to Mr. V for his way of doing business though.......thats old school.

You say that Spectre and QT cancel each other out? Having a detector that is undetectable by Spectre is only useful if you live in one state or you are a big truck driver. The ability to detect QT is useful in every state because every cop could potentially use it and you would never detect it with a Belscort.

+2

I hope you hang around so that you can see who the respected members of this forum are because you have much to learn young grasshopper.

Yes, Read MY posts and you just might learn something.

[v1user]

Where is SS?

[nine_c1]

Where is SS?

And how is that pertenent to this discussion?

[v1user]

Where is SS?

And how is that pertenent to this discussion?

He can do this.