Letter to the CEO

[Divewjason]

^Totally! I just noticed you have a STi-R! I usually post from my phone and can't see nothing. Have you tried RDR off and segmented? It helps a whole lot, except for the 33.7xxx falses.

I agree. Escort seems like they're sitting on their asses when it comes to innovation. The iQ I guess was considered innovative, but it's something no one here wants. The lack of innovation IMO is highlighted by releases such as the x50 black and magnum. The x50 is another m4 (doh) and the magnum uses cheaper LNA's than the Redline.

I truly hope we'll see some new stuff soon!

Funny you should mention RDR being off. I just turned it off yesterday. Off axis K band sensitivity was stellar. I did get 2 33.7 falses on the way to work. I switched my settings to RDR off and 2-5-8 on. I was too lazy to do it before. I am testing it along side of my Cobra XRS 9960G and also with my XTR-695(Using these two detectors at separate times of course. Both of their sensitivity is pretty much even) Normally in my area the STI-R will alert a few seconds before either detector, today it picked up some instant on off axis K band shots that my 9960G completely missed.(And believe it or not, this particular Cobra model is pretty decent with I/O shots, albeit not quite as responsive as my XTR-695) I am happy with my STI-R I am just hoping to see improved performance from escort as they have been on the same platform for years whereas Whistler, V1 and even Cobra has made significant progress in their detection platform.

I believe though that once the V1 patents end we will possibly see something from Escort/Bel that will be pretty awesome. I have found some of those new radar guns to be pretty hard for the standard M3 platform to detect.(When no ka band segmentation is available on the detector.) Ka seg and the ability to turn off filtering helps, but Escort should really consider exponentially increasing their sweep pattern and adding ka segmentation and filtering controls along with that. I know there are a lot of V1 users on this forum that would switch to Escort if they did this.

[natedog7700]

they NEED a redline with GPS badly

[4ringz4life]

^Totally! I just noticed you have a STi-R! I usually post from my phone and can't see nothing. Have you tried RDR off and segmented? It helps a whole lot, except for the 33.7xxx falses.

I agree. Escort seems like they're sitting on their asses when it comes to innovation. The iQ I guess was considered innovative, but it's something no one here wants. The lack of innovation IMO is highlighted by releases such as the x50 black and magnum. The x50 is another m4 (doh) and the magnum uses cheaper LNA's than the Redline.

I truly hope we'll see some new stuff soon!

Funny you should mention RDR being off. I just turned it off yesterday. Off axis K band sensitivity was stellar. I did get 2 33.7 falses on the way to work. I switched my settings to RDR off and 2-5-8 on. I was too lazy to do it before. I am testing it along side of my Cobra XRS 9960G and also with my XTR-695(Using these two detectors at separate times of course. Both of their sensitivity is pretty much even) Normally in my area the STI-R will alert a few seconds before either detector, today it picked up some instant on off axis K band shots that my 9960G completely missed.(And believe it or not, this particular Cobra model is pretty decent with I/O shots, albeit not quite as responsive as my XTR-695) I am happy with my STI-R I am just hoping to see improved performance from escort as they have been on the same platform for years whereas Whistler, V1 and even Cobra has made significant progress in their detection platform.

I believe though that once the V1 patents end we will possibly see something from Escort/Bel that will be pretty awesome. I have found some of those new radar guns to be pretty hard for the standard M3 platform to detect.(When no ka band segmentation is available on the detector.) Ka seg and the ability to turn off filtering helps, but Escort should really consider exponentially increasing their sweep pattern and adding ka segmentation and filtering controls along with that. I know there are a lot of V1 users on this forum that would switch to Escort if they did this.

YES. All of this. I will pay 600 for a redline with these features. No doubt about it. I will sell my v1, my rx65, and spend 300 more $$$ to get a redline with these additional features. Oh, and don't forget better Laser detection.

[gra]

Well, please add in your letter K band segmentation too. This is all I need. K band sweep starts from 24,050, but i did not find any radar gun under 24,120 mhz. Also after 24,175 mhz there are only automatic doors
All I can say to you guys is to ask CEO for the same software like used in europe.
Those have K pulsed band option which is way better that simple k band. I do extended testings using stationary k band sources, and the response is quicker with k pulse (over 1 second) and also the ramp up is REAL.
Yes on euro versions there are Ka band swide or ka band segmentation mode (1-4).
I don`t have any Ka band radar guns here so no data about ka sensitivity improve for euro versions...

[azanon]

Lemme get this straight: The OP contention is that Escort knows how to make their product line better, and has known how to for years, but intentionally doesn't make a better product without good reason? I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that fails the common sense test.

That there is a good reason that they don't do it is a non-issue. The only thing perhaps open to debate is what that good reason is - good from a management point of view. Either 1. The OP claim is simply not true 2. The improvement would be cost prohibitive, and/or the customer, on average, would be unwilling to pay for it. 3. These extra features already exist on a more expensive product and the OP presumably just doesn't want to pay more. 4. Something else that's logical.

I'm sorry folks, I'm not buying that some folks on a forum know better than the company itself. I just purchased a new 8500 x50 black. From what I'm understanding so far, this product is quite competitive with anything out there in its price range. If, for instance, adding a "USA Mode" to it were cheap enough that the performance improvement would at least equal the added cost of implementing it, they would most certainly add it. What's probably more likely though is that they'd prefer a $299 dollar product/price point, than $315-320 just to add USA mode, and consequently cause a few thousand customers to now be unwilling to buy it.

Breath easy folks. They probably have good reason to do what they do. Don't be mad because you don't get to sit in the board meetings and be privied to what is most likely sound rationale for their business decisions.

[ghz1]

They don't because they can't.

[nine_c1]

Lemme get this straight: The OP contention is that Escort knows how to make their product line better, and has known how to for years, but intentionally doesn't make a better product without good reason? I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that fails the common sense test.

That there is a good reason that they don't do it is a non-issue. The only thing perhaps open to debate is what that good reason is - good from a management point of view. Either 1. The OP claim is simply not true 2. The improvement would be cost prohibitive, and/or the customer, on average, would be unwilling to pay for it. 3. These extra features already exist on a more expensive product and the OP presumably just doesn't want to pay more. 4. Something else that's logical.

I'm sorry folks, I'm not buying that some folks on a forum know better than the company itself. I just purchased a new 8500 x50 black. From what I'm understanding so far, this product is quite competitive with anything out there in its price range. If, for instance, adding a "USA Mode" to it were cheap enough that the performance improvement would at least equal the added cost of implementing it, they would most certainly add it. What's probably more likely though is that they'd prefer a $299 dollar product/price point, than $315-320 just to add USA mode, and consequently cause a few thousand customers to now be unwilling to buy it.

Breath easy folks. They probably have good reason to do what they do. Don't be mad because you don't get to sit in the board meetings and be privied to what is most likely sound rationale for their business decisions.

I'm glad you like your 8500/X50 black..........from all accounts so far it is a terrific detector for the price. From what other members have reported so far the range is indeed kicked up a notch thanks to the new condensor lens it sports in front of the antenna. We have also heard that the ramp up is quite respectable leading us to believe that Escort may have tweaked the ramp up in the new X50 model. The beautiful thing for you is that you didn't pay an extra penny over the old X50 model for those improvements.

You might thank us old dotes for years of whining about poor ramp up and numerous references to the value of the 9500ix's condensor lens for Escort adding those improvements to the X50. Just maybe us folks on the forum know a little something about how to improve these products.

Now, if you support your fellow enthusiast, just maybe we can get USA mode added to your X50 (already available on the $299 RX65) which would prevent you from missing Instant On radar shots under 1 second. Wouldn't that be nice? Then you could be confident that your detector would not be completely useless against a LEO employing the Quick Trigger technique.

Or........you can continue to believe mother Escort knows best and will always place your best interest first..........and pay $1200 to get a bullet proof detector with an accurate ramp up that is not portable and takes 4 hours to install.