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  1. #21
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    I didn't mean you personally but I hear from every side different stories.

    I think the only copy is Laserdefender and that AL and LPP while working together in the past split up for whatever reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flitsservice.nl
    I didn't mean you personally but I hear from every side different stories.
    ^ Ah, gotcha.

    I think the only copy is Laserdefender and that AL and LPP while working together in the past split up for whatever reason.
    From the reading I've done ( I dug nearly all the way back into the Forums here during my pre-purchase research - I'm a research scientist by trade and training, so it's kinda a compulsion for me ), it does seem that there's more than just the "business split" that went-on with AL/LPP.

    Whether or not this is true, I honestly don't know - which is why I included the quotation marks, to denote my own reservations about using the word - however, it's just been something that's been either outright said or easily hinted at in so many of the past threads that I could not, in good-conscience, not mention it to our newcomer here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flitsservice.nl
    I didn't mean you personally but I hear from every side different stories.

    I think the only copy is Laserdefender and that AL and LPP while working together in the past split up for whatever reason.
    Actually Bella aka Laser Defender, KMPH aka Laser Pro Park, AL, and Ivan ALL used to work together so the above statement would be incorrect. What I like to know is who LEGALLY owns the rights to the AL technology. This would answer our question. I do know that AL is the only one currently "tweaking" their units meaning messing around with the algorithms. For good or bad their firmware is always changing while the others are staying the same. If my memory serves me right LPP has AL's 16.88 firmware. Since then AL went from 17.01 "stalker E04 fix" and now they are up to 17.21 which you you the ability to "disable" the parking sensor and ability to adjust the power output.
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    Default Re: Laser Jammer recomendations for Massachusetts and BMW e4

    Quote Originally Posted by sna77
    Been doing some reading for the last few hours on this site, and the Guys of Lidar site as well... I'm more confused now than I was before I started... Haha... I think I'm information overload...

    Anyhow, I live in Mass, and have a BMW 330. Was looking for some recomendations for this setup... The LPP sounded interesting... I actually wasn't able to find any of them online to purchase except for the Escort Z3 and the Blinder...

    Oh, here's the front of my car... No front plate:

    Thanks for the help!

    Right now the best jammer available is AntiLaser. I recommend 2 heads for the front of your car each one installed in the top corners of the lower opening of the front end.

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    Default Front plate in MA

    Can't believe the police have not said anything about your absent front plate. :shock:

    I drove around for 1 week without one and got stopped by a local officer. No ticket because I had the plate in the trunk and I showed that the broken bracket would not stay attached to the plastic bumper. Told me to get a new bracket, which I did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flitsservice.nl
    With the Laser ProPark, since there is a NA distributor, shipping and purchasing is much easier than the AL. However, the ultimate durability/reliability of these rather newer, UK-made "copies" of the AL remains an unknown (early reports are promising) - and the follow-through of the NA distributor is also an unknown factor (here, it must be said that their pre-purchase, purchase, as well as immediate post-purchase customer-service and follow-up has been nothing short of stellar, based on the feedback of the vast majority of their customers).
    I don't understand the "UK copies". All what I have heard is that LPP and AL were in it together and then split up. Is there mudslinging going on?
    No the LPP copied the AL is what i sources have told me. Heck my sources have even told me that when Kris from KMPH stayed with an AL guy that Kris stole the jam software off the wireless network in the office...BUT THAT IS WHAT I WAS TOLD YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BELIEVE IT!!! I AM JUST STATING WHAT I WAS TOLD

    Further analysis of the history of the AL software performance and the time at which the split occured it should be noted that the AL software was having troubles jamming the 100pps LTI and occassional high PTs with the Laser Atlanta. Look at the current LPPs at the last event..Strange resimblance between the AL7 and current LPP :shock: ...

    The AL G8 has had tweaked jammer algorithms from the AL7(hense better performance at the recent GOL event) as been noted by happya$$. SUPPOSIDLY KMPH took care of the LTI 100pps so they might actually be able to tweak the jammer settings HOWEVER this has yet to be seen

    Also noted by happy Bela, Kris, Marco and Ivan were a team. Until the split. Bela holds the trademark in the USA for the Laser Defender and shark label. trademarked during december 2005 if my memory serves me right, not sure if the trademark applies to the UK. DS got pissed name was then switched to LPP. LPP was UK retailer of AL...LD was suppose to be the USA distributer....

    Anything else people wanna know that i will answer from my personal opinions from what i have heard from other people in the industry???? WHAT I AM TELLING YOU MIGHT NOT BE TRUE JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION OR THOUGHTS WHEN I PONDERED THIS SITUATION

    EDIT: I am tired with this industry and the lies, I just want the best performing jammer

    2nd EDIT: What I stated above is my personal opinions/observations on a situation. It can NOT be taken as fact! It is just my pesonal observation and what I personally gather from the situation. I could be wrong or I could be right.

    I am tired of company reps complaining to me for stating a personal observation which I have clearly stated and labeled as such in bold and underlined in my posts!!!! Sorry company reps but I like to be real and not hold my tongue if I have insight or a personal observation to state.

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    Thanks to both stealthJamal and crazyVOLVOrob for further clearing this up.

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    Ok volvo, so what do you recommend, the AL or LPP?

    I understand your post in saying that the LPP copied the AL, but how does that say which one is better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synbios
    Ok volvo, so what do you recommend, the AL or LPP?

    I understand your post in saying that the LPP copied the AL, but how does that say which one is better?
    Honestly I don't know which one is better.

    The AL has better performance(according to the March 07 GOL event) but if this 6month lifespan is the same for all their units and their warranty requires a fee to replace the broken unit.

    As for the new LPPs produced by KMPH have pretty much equal performance to the AL but the price of $799 for a dual head unit is insanely high(Price is what one person I talked to who recently purchased a dual head setup paid for it) But the LPP post 6month lifespan of the KMPH built versions has yet to been seen. Their service seems good though if they will replace a broken a unit for free

    Personally though I have seen a jammer that performs better than both so I am going to wait until a retail version of it is released and see how it performs...If it lives up to the prototype than I am buying it. If the performance is equal to a dual head AL or LPP and the warranty is there I'll buy simply due for the price..

    Right now I'll stick to my Blinder M20 paired with a Lidatek dual LE30 I have never gotten a ticket using both jammers by themselves so I'll continue with that set-up until something truly better comes around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyVOLVOrob
    Personally there are too many questions for me to say which jammer i would recommend
    ^ Well said.

    There's just too many factors to consider - this truly is something that people need to "cowboy up" for, and understand that it's a decision they're going to have to make based on their own personal judgement of performance vs. price (including potential shipping concerns) vs. durability/reliability (including warranty).

 

 

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