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  1. #41
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    Default Re: Atlanta Jammerfest 3 Results

    Quote Originally Posted by djrams80 View Post
    That video was just posted to counter happya$$'s claim that my unmodified ZR4s were not capable. My car's not that big. There's nowhere to target that's all that far from my jammers. I've tried mirror shots, corner shots and roofline shots. Thay're all JTG.
    I guess targeting everywhere on your car would be JTG/JFG when djparkinsonrams is shooting .

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    Quote Originally Posted by djrams80 View Post
    Extreme angle shots sound like they would involve high cosine error.
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    The only time I have trouble detecting anything is at very close range where the laser is aimed at extreme corners of my car.
    That the extreme I was referring to initially, not the extreme angle. You just won't have that many of those in the wild. I doubt many initial shots are done outside of 10 degrees off the jammer plane.

    Anyway, this issue is moot in my point - again, you'd get owned by rsatmans but I doubt you'll get many laser tickets, if any. Kinda splitting the fine hairs here - the bigger danger imo is that you get overconfident in your setup. A little caution never hurt anyone.

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    DJ:

    You have a great setup and I'm sure you would fair well against most if not all LEO's, but I would not bet any money against Rsatmans ability to get a long PT on our course against you. It would be a bad bet on your part.

    Another thing to remember on these numbers too, is that this is the 3rd time Rsatmans has shot most of these vehicles. He has a good idea where to start looking for weak points.

    The purpose of our testing is to find our weak spots and see what if anything we can do to improve upon them. I know from these tests that the extreme corners of my taillights and headlights can get PT's. I also know now that running with my headlights on drastically reduces or eliminates my front weakness. I also know I want MEM-TEK to make me a set of those modified ZR4 heads!!
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by category4 View Post
    DJ:

    You have a great setup and I'm sure you would fair well against most if not all LEO's, but I would not bet any money against Rsatmans ability to get a long PT on our course against you. It would be a bad bet on your part.
    I know a road that's similar to the course you guys used, probably tougher. I'm going to do some testing over there. I'll bet my setup is tighter than you guys think.

    Quote Originally Posted by category4 View Post
    Another thing to remember on these numbers too, is that this is the 3rd time Rsatmans has shot most of these vehicles. He has a good idea where to start looking for weak points.
    Man, my brothers and I have shot my car so many times and have identified many weak spots. I've addressed these one by one and think I've got them pretty nailed down. I'm telling you, I think my setup is pretty damn tight. PTs are few and far between and seemingly totally random when they do happen. Like that 163ft PT we got the other day against the TruSpeed. We tried and tried to replicate it, but couldn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by category4 View Post
    The purpose of our testing is to find our weak spots and see what if anything we can do to improve upon them. I know from these tests that the extreme corners of my taillights and headlights can get PT's. I also know now that running with my headlights on drastically reduces or eliminates my front weakness. I also know I want MEM-TEK to make me a set of those modified ZR4 heads!!
    This is what I've been doing for some time now. I shoot, find weaknesses and address them.

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    Default Re: Atlanta Jammerfest 3 Results

    Is this sorta of like a race or something?. I believe all setups I've seen in here will offer ticket saving performance. However, jammer setup bragging performance is another story here...

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    Nothing wrong with a little friendly competition!

    Good news is that I can smack talk all day long, but unless Dr. PunchThrough a.k.a. Dr. JammerKiller a.k.a. Rsatmans is in the same place as djrams car, it's all talk.

    I'm just thankful I met Category4 who had already done all the research and generously let me copy his setup to the last detail. No telling how much money or time I would've wasted on other stuff.

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    Yeah. Its all good. Personally I think that Rsatmans would get very few PTs against DJ's car. The reason I think this is because the Veil has been so evenly applied that DJ's headlights and fog lights act like big black holes to IR. Yet I still think that Rsatmans would get some PTs though. He's just that darned good.

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    Hey, that course you guys are using is ridiculously hard. That gives rsatmans a chance, since as you come over the hill, the jammers are pointed down and away from the laser gun. I have never tested my jammers against this type of scenario. It might be a no win situation.

    Like I said, I know of a street that looks reasonably similar, only it's curved the other direction and I think the down slope is greater. If I can JTG my PLII and my TruSpeed on the road I'm thinking of with just my ZR4s, I'd say rsatmans would have no chance at consistent PT against my full setup. I mean, he's not shooting a magic laser gun or anything. My brothers and I are no slouches ouselves when it comes to shooting these laser guns. I highly doubt that his shooting skills are that much different than ours.

    Now, I could get instant PT all day on a course like that. I don't know because I've never tried, but I will soon. I have a new challenge, which is good because I'm kind of bored getting JTGs all day. Shooting the front of my car has gotten kind of boring.

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    DJ that is awesome I am glad that our "intense" course/ massive PT are generating dialogue and helping others rethink the testing of their setups. As far as your particular setup goes it is pretty slick. I definitely can appreciate the meticulous time and thought you have put into perfecting it. I am jealous of your professionally applied veil. Go do some testing on that extreme site and report back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djrams80 View Post
    I'd say rsatmans would have no chance at consistent PT against my full setup. I mean, he's not shooting a magic laser gun or anything. My brothers and I are no slouches ouselves when it comes to shooting these laser guns. I highly doubt that his shooting skills are that much different than ours.
    I'm not claiming to be the best lidar shooter ever. Actually, I am very humbled by what others have said. I just see it as something fun and exciting. However, to your comment I would doubt I would see many PT over 600ft if any depending on the course. But from the videos you have posted I am not impressed by your shooting skills . Who aims 10 inches from a jammer head and claims they are the stealthiest. WEAK WEAK WEAK

 

 

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