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This might be the most non-intellectual post so far in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghz1
X2. WTH?Quote:
Originally Posted by ASHDUMPThis might be the most non-intellectual post so far in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghz1
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Originally Posted by ghz1
That was not nice.
IMO I think you don't deserve your full avatar because only half of it was being used when you made that post...
During this thread people have insulted Mike V Mike V's wife the thread starter's only reason to start the thread(s) was to get his $50 revenge on VR which he has admitted and I'm not nice to point that out! Should I have been a bit my loving and caring so not to upset him?
Revenge (synonym vengeance) is a harmful action against a person or group as a response to a (real or perceived) grievance
Hey I'm not trying to get some revenge on anybody I'm just seeing it at it's whole unadulterated undressed turth.
You three boys dating him or something or is it the Sir post that pulled your heart strings?
Nothing to see here. Just move along folks.
Yes we know...
It is a V1 FANBOI, still there is nothing to see.
It will all be cleaned up in a moment or two :)
You're out of line. Whether you feel he has a legitimate complaint or not, bksnoopy has a right to share his customer service experience with this forum. The information he has shared might save someone some grief should they encounter a similar situation. I'd say a good number here didn't know this was VR's policy. I certainly didn't. It does seem that charging bksnoopy $50 for a part they're already making a profit for at $13, is a bit much.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghz1
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Originally Posted by STiMULihttp://lpc1.clpccd.cc.ca.us/lpc/jones/half%20brain.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by ghz1
Any questions? :D
I encourage anybody who has had a bad experience with a company to post it but do you think it's necessary to write the same thing in every thread you see that says the words: escort 9500ix or Valentine one? Look at his (bksnoopy) recent post if you don't know what I'm talking about. Even if he was complaining about RMR or KAT, I find it very annoying to post the same thing 20 times over the course of a few hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by djrams80You're out of line. Whether you feel he has a legitimate complaint or not, bksnoopy has a right to share his customer service experience with this forum. The information he has shared might save someone some grief should they encounter a similar situation. I'd say a good number here didn't know this was VR's policy. I certainly didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghz1
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Originally Posted by v1userI encourage anybody who has had a bad experience with a company to post it but do you think it's necessary to write the same thing in every thread you see that says the words: escort 9500ix or Valentine one? Look at his (bksnoopy) recent post if you don't know what I'm talking about. Even if he was complaining about RMR or KAT, I find it very annoying to post the same thing 20 times over the course of a few hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by djrams80You're out of line. Whether you feel he has a legitimate complaint or not, bksnoopy has a right to share his customer service experience with this forum. The information he has shared might save someone some grief should they encounter a similar situation. I'd say a good number here didn't know this was VR's policy. I certainly didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghz1
That's what I'm talking about. I don't think I'm out of line DJ just look at his history on the topic. So it's canon fodder time, he had his good 2 or 6 or 10 x's to have a say don't you think. Sorry if I'm a straight shooter I'm sure he's a real nice guy and it is Xmas but the dudes got a problem and not telling him not gonna fix it. Now do you think he's gonna start another thread about the same topic? :p he doesn't like a detector that's too situation aware. What he needs to figure out is that if he didn't cut that power cord he would not have this problem. Customer service don't hang up on folks that are nice. What he hasn't told the forum is what he said to the VR office bull terra. Remember the hundreds of threads about great VR service. Or did you all just want to focus on this dudes personal revagne because the detectors to much for him to handle and then when he didn't return it as he got it they nailed it into him. who's at fault. Oh me I forgot
Why is it necessary to post the same thing in each of these threads?Quote:
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Thank you NissanA!! Here are some you forgot::DQuote:
Originally Posted by NissanA
There are two seperate things going on here:
1) bksnoopy had a legitimate customer service problem with VR.
2) bksnoopy is acting like a newb and running around the forum posting repetitive anti-V1 stuff.
I agree that #2 is annoying, but you guys are attacking him for #2, even though #1 is legit.
. Whether you feel he has a legitimate complaint or not, bksnoopy has a right to share his customer service experience with this forum. The information he has shared might save someone some grief should they encounter a similar situation. I'd say a good number here didn't know this was VR's policy. I certainly didn't. It does seem that charging bksnoopy $50 for a part they're already making a profit for at $13, is a bit much.[/quote]
While I'm at it DJ think about it your returning a gadget that's is not faulty with a cord that is not the same as you received it. Buy rights they could refuse the return completely. Remember he tried to pull the wool over there eyes by not telling them he was aware of it his bad not VR. If you can't see that God help us:dontknow:
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Originally Posted by ghz1
Hrmm, I disagree, the $100 restocking fee for "renters" is one thing, $50 'not like new' fee on the other hand is something else. It shouldn't matter if it was his fault or not if it was returned within the 30 day time frame and he had soaked it in the bottom of a pool, the guarantee is a guarantee, and if he didn't like the results after cutting a cord or soaking it in the bottom of a pool, they should take it back. And his argument is solid -- the power cord is $13 sold online, why does he have to pay $50 for them to replace a power cord -- you could make an argument that 1 power cord is lost from stock, but even then the fee should only be double and $13 x 2 is $26, not $50.
I take your point. At the end of the day He is not telling the whole story, just his side, it's doesn't cut it for me. The whole threat was a set up to discredit VR that also doesn't cut for me. So he should take them to court if he's been ripped off right.
If it were a money-back guarantee on a "super widget" and he took a $50 screwing for a $13 mistake, most of the V1 Fanbois would be right here in the same thread griping and complaining with him.
But god help us when the name Valentine was mentioned, you would have thought Steve Jobs joined the forum/thread.
Just be fair and stop slinging the name calling and insinuations.
I have read over and over again, all over this site, from many otherwise happy Valentine users that VR has very poor CS and they do not (apparently) have an incentive to change it (her).
When I am wronged (and when someone does me right), I make it a point to alert as many people as possible.
x2, if I were the OP I would seriously do a chargeback if they tried to charge me an UNDISCLOSED $50 fee for return, alert sites like consumerist.com and make as many people aware of the situation as possible. I would not be talking about it in every other thread on the same forum however, that I agree is annoying, but as DJ pointed out he has a legit complaint here. And it seems Ms. Valentine or whoever the girl is that does the telephone customer support is unwilling to do right by the customer. V1 patent runs out in April, I don't think now is the best time to try to F* potential customers, just because someone returns something doesn't mean they won't buy from you in the future, and if you show some good faith on accepting a return your chances of repeat business are better.Quote:
Originally Posted by STiMULi
any credit card company would give you the 50.00 back if you can prove the datesQuote:
Originally Posted by bksnoopyYou're right,Quote:
Originally Posted by thx1138
I have been very upset after I got off the phone with their customer service person.
I expect I will have to protest the excessive charges. It's just 50 bucks and I'll get over it. I can't remember the last time I was talked to the way Valentine's supervisor talked to me. She really had a short fuse. I was trying to get her to charge me for the $13 part and for her to give me an explanation as to why I was being charged $50 restocking.
Their product pages state: "30-day Money-Back Guarantee.” There are no conditions there, nor an asterisk pointing to one.
It's not going to mess up my Christmas.
Merry Christmas to all :D
BTW .. If keeping my $50 is good for them, me giving them $50 worth of bad advertising is my way of getting my money’s worth.
Ben, OH
So you might just call them
Your aviator say it all, You're a NUT. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ghz1
I also believe you work or have some personal connection to the Valentines. :rolleyes:
The reason the cord didn't come up when I dropped it off is the lady that took my return failed to give me any type of receipt for my detector. She didn't ask me any questions as to why I was bringing it back and just said "they will credit my card". I had to ask her if I was going to get any return receipt. She said wait a minute, went to the back, came back, and handed me a copy of my receipt that she signed. During this time I didn't give them a reason for the return and didn't give the wire a thought. MY mistake on the little wire thing!
It still doesn't excuse the way I was treated. We're talking a piece of wire!
I would bet that several other customers cut that same wire (one of the bottom wires) while installing the hub. I'm sure all Valentine will do is open the hub and replace that little wire.
https://store.valentine1.com/store/products/20305.gif
I would be willing to bet another 50 bucks that they don't pitch that hub.
Knowing how old the Valentine 1 is, I doubt that the whole Valentine 1 cost more than $50 to make.
You better get back to your desk at Valentine ... Dropping in here to defend your boss is commendable but will not get you a raise this year. ;)
You’re right. It's something that I feel everyone needs to know and I will give Valentine 1 their monies worth. They bought $50 worth of bad publicity. You do want me to give them their monies worth, don't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by v1userI encourage anybody who has had a bad experience with a company to post it but do you think it's necessary to write the same thing in every thread you see that says the words: escort 9500ix or Valentine one? Look at his (bksnoopy) recent post if you don't know what I'm talking about. Even if he was complaining about RMR or KAT, I find it very annoying to post the same thing 20 times over the course of a few hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by djrams80You're out of line. Whether you feel he has a legitimate complaint or not, bksnoopy has a right to share his customer service experience with this forum. The information he has shared might save someone some grief should they encounter a similar situation. I'd say a good number here didn't know this was VR's policy. I certainly didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghz1
Be kind, what happened to me can happen to you one of these days. :rolleyes:
BTW.. At this time, Valentine is all that's on my mind about Radar Stuff. My 9500ix will be here today and I will post about it later
The only thing I said to the office manager after she came back and told me Mike Valentine was too busy to talk to me and the charge "is what it is" ... You can quote me "So you are basically stealing $50 from me" I think that was a natural response when someone is stealing $50 from you. Right?Quote:
Originally Posted by ghz1Quote:
Originally Posted by v1userI encourage anybody who has had a bad experience with a company to post it but do you think it's necessary to write the same thing in every thread you see that says the words: escort 9500ix or Valentine one? Look at his (bksnoopy) recent post if you don't know what I'm talking about. Even if he was complaining about RMR or KAT, I find it very annoying to post the same thing 20 times over the course of a few hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by djrams80You're out of line. Whether you feel he has a legitimate complaint or not, bksnoopy has a right to share his customer service experience with this forum. The information he has shared might save someone some grief should they encounter a similar situation. I'd say a good number here didn't know this was VR's policy. I certainly didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghz1
That's what I'm talking about. I don't think I'm out of line DJ just look at his history on the topic. So it's canon fodder time, he had his good 2 or 6 or 10 x's to have a say don't you think. Sorry if I'm a straight shooter I'm sure he's a real nice guy and it is Xmas but the dudes got a problem and not telling him not gonna fix it. Now do you think he's gonna start another thread about the same topic? :p he doesn't like a detector that's too situation aware. What he needs to figure out is that if he didn't cut that power cord he would not have this problem. Customer service don't hang up on folks that are nice. What he hasn't told the forum is what he said to the VR office bull terra. Remember the hundreds of threads about great VR service. Or did you all just want to focus on this dudes personal revagne because the detectors to much for him to handle and then when he didn't return it as he got it they nailed it into him. who's at fault. Oh me I forgot
I didn't use any bad language what so ever !!!
I think I made my point in this thread. I don't think it is necessary to fence with all the Valentine lovers, employees, etc.
Thanks for all the support good and bad. There are always 2 sides to every story. I openly admitted that I made a mistake. It won't be my last.
I'll continue to fight to get my $50. Why, you ask? ... because it’s the principle. I may never see that 50 bucks again but is it really worth it to Valentine to keep my money? Everytime I see a radar question, I will remember how Valentine treated this customer.
Peace all and Merry Christmas
BTW ... one of my posts was not posted until reviewed by a moderator. I'm not sure why?
The forum has an automatic spam filter. You triggered it somehow.Quote:
Originally Posted by bksnoopy
:rolleyes: ok let me explain this so you can understand why I do not get any false RADAR alerts with my V1 or any RADAR detector for that matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by bksnoopy
Door openers use RADAR that RADAR gets picked up by my RADAR detector. wow what a concept a RADAR detector detected RADAR!
I have nothing turned off and I leave it in A mode all the time. I set the volume at a lever I can just hear it over road noise and the radio and set the mute volume lower. when I get a RADAR alert I use MY judgment on if it is an LEO or not (not a computers) if I determine the source is not from an LEO I hit the mute and carry on (all of this happens in a few seconds) I love the performance of the V1 and the arrows well they make it great!
I put an STi-R in the wife's car and I like it as well the auto mute feature is nice but it doesn't have the arrows. nothing beats the arrows of the V1.
Must have been Mike Valentine wife? Better to hang up and try again until a male answers.Quote:
Originally Posted by bksnoopy
I for one do not think the V-1 is old or outdated at all. I don't want GPS on my radar detector, I want it to do one thing the best it can! I don't want addded features that make it bigger or bulky.Quote:
Originally Posted by bksnoopy
Sorry that you had a bad experience but I have had multiple interactions with V-1 (and no I am not an employee either) and never had a problem. I didn't try to send anything back and hide it though either.
I wouldn't trade my V-1 for the newest anything.
I think a radar detector without gps is getting to be old school. My main detector is the V1 and I recently got a 9500i and even though the V1 is still the best, gps is a must. I will not purchase a new radar detector without it. The V1 falses way too much and I can't wait to get a SC55 so I can shut this thing up. Yes I tried all the tricks in this forum and yes it has done a lot to quiet down my V1, thanks for the help.
Just the other day, I was driving with 3 other people in the car and as we drove around in the restaurant car parking lot, my V1 starts going crazy and the comment was "what the hell was that? there's no speed trap in the parking lot, lol. a lot of good that does!" I knew the deal....but I was still embarrassed. No reason for a radar detector to blast full alerts at the highest volume going 5 mph.
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Originally Posted by NissanA
Haha Thanks for pointing that out NissanA...bksnoopy I read the same damn thing in multiple threads, chill the f*ck out. Ok V1 gave you ****ty service, sorry to hear that. But you don't need to post it in 30 different threads. Go with and escort or beltronics if you want a more quiet RD. V1 is not meant for cities in my opinion, only Highway use for myself. I think we all need to relax a bit, everyone is taking this way too seriously. Have a smoke, a drink, and relax.Quote:
Originally Posted by djrams80The forum has an automatic spam filter. You triggered it somehow.Quote:
Originally Posted by bksnoopy
:lol::lol::lol: Dj
This thread has made me sick to my stomach, the bashing of the Valentine CS is a bunch of bull. And to see the old timers pileing on is sickening as well, oh well so be it!!! I have lost all respect for the few old timers in this thread that are defending this BS.
I will bet you anything this all started with a phone call to Valentine and foul lanuage was used and thus the so called hang up.
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Originally Posted by Offshore
Please read this post. IMHO is why she hung up on me.
Merry Christmas
I dont need to read your post because I dont belive a word your saying, as I said its BS. Your bashing Valentine on every post now and Im sick of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by bksnoopyQuote:
Originally Posted by Offshore
Please read this post. IMHO is why she hung up on me.
Merry Christmas
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Originally Posted by Offshore
Correct! The thread starter going to get just deserts with that 9500.:)
Also WTH's going on with Mike V's wife? This is the sort BS that comes from bell boys. First of all would we all agree that Mike V has a bit of cash in his pocket right. So how the hell do these complete mono cells come to the conclusion that Mrs V' spends her days answering phone calls from no necks like bksnoopy. It's amazes me this dude thinks the V1's old school what's that all about?
and my brain to the left is nothing to do with self proclaimed knowledge it's all about the little people doing it. Open your eyes and you will see.
When those in a debate resort to ad hominem it only serves to highlight possible weakness in their position. Sort of like Al Sharpton calling someone a racist or a liar automatically when he doesn't agree with them.
Yea this whole thing has been a joke, and the joke is on the few that want to give this guy an open forum to BASH VALENTINE. Well guess what I am not going to sit back and listen to a bunch of bull coming from some newbie on this forum with out putting in my two cents worth.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghz1Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore
Correct! The thread starter going to get just deserts with that 9500.:)
Also WTH's going on with Mike V's wife? This is the sort BS that comes from bell boys. First of all would we all agree that Mike V has a bit of cash in his pocket right. So how the hell do these complete mono cells come to the conclusion that Mrs V' spends her days answering phone calls from no necks like bksnoopy. It's amazes me this dude thinks the V1's old school what's that all about?
Mike's wife never answers the phone, the rude lady ya'll talking about is not his wife...
The guy just sent back the best windshield RD made. Unless the Redline proves that it is better. I hope that he will be happy with the IX.
I'm sorry if I upset you but as Vlentine said "it is what it is"Quote:
Originally Posted by OffshoreI dont need to read your post because I dont belive a word your saying, as I said its BS. Your bashing Valentine on every post now and Im sick of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by bksnoopyQuote:
Originally Posted by Offshore
Please read this post. IMHO is why she hung up on me.
Merry Christmas
Please read this post.
Why don't you go Christmas shopping and get away for awhile. Don't let forums make you so angry.
Merry Christmas
Man your the one sitting on the thread:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by bksnoopyI'm sorry if I upset you but as Vlentine said "it is what it is"Quote:
Originally Posted by OffshoreI dont need to read your post because I dont belive a word your saying, as I said its BS. Your bashing Valentine on every post now and Im sick of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by bksnoopyQuote:
Originally Posted by Offshore
Please read this post. IMHO is why she hung up on me.
Merry Christmas
Please read this post.
Why don't you go Christmas shopping and get away for awhile. Don't let forums make you so angry.
Merry Christmas
I wouldn't go that far and say it's the Best maybe best at going off to each bank and doors around ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman
Without the option to Lock that out with almost as good rang :p me I pick the Ix
Lets make this simple, a RADAR detector detects radar right? Right. It does not matter where it is coming from, as long as it is true radar that is what it will detect, be it from doors, banks or cops.
There is no such thing as a cop detector ok. The V1 does not false, actually it is the least false prone detector to date, you can run pop on and with the new ones you will rarely get a Junk signal, falsing means reporting a signal the is not radar (like other leaky detectors, radio towers, cellphone towers, etc), so in that sense the V1 is least false prone. Don't believe me, turn pop on any whistler or belscort and run them, I bet it will alert to pop or pulse from non radar sources more then a v1 will.