New Whistler 3600 Remote Model

[AirMoore]

This new Whistler, really has my interest peaked.


As much as I'd say it is 99.99% likely-hood it is more of the same pish-posh, I can't hate on Whistler for continually putting out new models with tweaks and revisions... at least they are doing something yearly *cough cough*.


If this thing turns out to be legit (Highly UNLIKELY) it could make its way onto my super-long wish-list.

Price is also a HUGE factor... we don't need another Qi45.

[Sector_15504]

if they managed to make a more sensitive Rev C platform that is near the big dogs for 1/4 of the price, id get that one for my daily driver, and get a Redline/V1 for travel/highway...

[Whistler1]

POP was enabled only during the POP test as with every other brand tested.

As for the Whistler remote, it was at a huge disadvantage compared to the other detectors and this information was not reflected in the posted report.

To set the record straight, the GPS only devices were listed as Cobra SL3 and the Whistler RLC-250 however what is not listed is the Whistler RLC-100, the Escort SC55, and the Cheetah C50. I hope SML chooses to include these if they revise the article.

The height of the dash models for Whistler, Cobra and Escort were approx 48"

The height of the V1 was 60" as in was in an SUV
The height of the Bel/Escort remotes were 36" as they were also mounted on the SUV

The height of the Whistler 3600 was 12" as this was the only location I could quickly mount in the Ford Fusion given the time and tools I had at my disposal.

During the over the hill test we took the Pro68SE off the dashboard and tested it outside the vehicle at 12" from the ground. The comparison on X band went from a 6-7 (windshield) to 2-3 (lower grill), the 33.8 test went from 3-4 (windshield) to a 2 (lower grill) indicating the signal at 12” from the ground in the “over the hill test” was significantly weaker. My estimation was approx 12db difference on X band and approx 6db difference at 33.8Ghz. This estimation is based upon the signal strength table.

SML has the results but did not post them not did SML make reference to the height of the Whistler remote.

I hope SML can see the importance of this and decide to revise the report.
They could even spin it off as a story about the importance of choosing the right mounting location. If SML does not, I am sure that someone else will.

A simple statement with the heights and a summary indicating that height can cause lower performance during conditions where the roadway interferes with the path of radar.

As the 9 mile test was an unobstructed view, the height did not create an issue.

Michael,

Thanks for bringing this information out, height of one remote compared to another can make a big difference. I really hope SML will revise their report to indicate the differences. Thanks again for mention the differences in height not only on the remotes but also comparing the 3600 to the Pro 68 se.


Whistler1

[Michael B]

I heard this unit can be installed completely inside the vehicle and removed as easy as a window mounted one. Is that true?

No that is not true

[bigalinwv]

I heard this unit can be installed completely inside the vehicle and removed as easy as a window mounted one. Is that true?

No that is not true

Not that they are ever correct about anything, but on the SML test, it implies that the 3600 can be either a dash or a remote detector. Here's the link, last few sentences at the bottom, just above "Laser Counter Measures".

Laser can?t be seen. Its narrow beam transmits in the infrared spectrum outside of human vision. The human eye can see between 380-790 nanometers and laser transmits at 904-905 nanometers. Law enforcement is making increased use of police laser gun

[Michael B]

It was a comment taken out of context.

The question was asked of me can this be placed inside the vehicle.

My reply was that it was a full install remote and as such was designed for a typical under the hood installation, however the receiver had some style to it and if someone wanted to mount it inside the vehicle, I suppose they could.

Somehow that was spun to the verbiage seen on the SML website

[AirMoore]

It was a comment taken out of context.

The question was asked of me can this be placed inside the vehicle.

My reply was that it was a full install remote and as such was designed for a typical under the hood installation, however the receiver had some style to it and if someone wanted to mount it inside the vehicle, I suppose they could.

Somehow that was spun to the verbiage seen on the SML website

You can't win with those blokes mate... stay here with us, we welcome you.


Just curious... at what point will we be seeing any release details on this (ETA... $$$... PICS). Before the Holidays I hope.

[Michael B]

Yes before the holidays..........

Still need final approval to release pictures/features/MSRP

I know this is information is overdue but please be patient.

[MOPARado]

POP was enabled only during the POP test as with every other brand tested.

As for the Whistler remote, it was at a huge disadvantage compared to the other detectors and this information was not reflected in the posted report.

To set the record straight, the GPS only devices were listed as Cobra SL3 and the Whistler RLC-250 however what is not listed is the Whistler RLC-100, the Escort SC55, and the Cheetah C50. I hope SML chooses to include these if they revise the article.

The height of the dash models for Whistler, Cobra and Escort were approx 48"

The height of the V1 was 60" as in was in an SUVThe height of the Bel/Escort remotes were 36" as they were also mounted on the SUV

The height of the Whistler 3600 was 12" as this was the only location I could quickly mount in the Ford Fusion given the time and tools I had at my disposal.

During the over the hill test we took the Pro68SE off the dashboard and tested it outside the vehicle at 12" from the ground. The comparison on X band went from a 6-7 (windshield) to 2-3 (lower grill), the 33.8 test went from 3-4 (windshield) to a 2 (lower grill) indicating the signal at 12” from the ground in the “over the hill test” was significantly weaker. My estimation was approx 12db difference on X band and approx 6db difference at 33.8Ghz. This estimation is based upon the signal strength table.

SML has the results but did not post them not did SML make reference to the height of the Whistler remote.

I hope SML can see the importance of this and decide to revise the report.
They could even spin it off as a story about the importance of choosing the right mounting location. If SML does not, I am sure that someone else will.

A simple statement with the heights and a summary indicating that height can cause lower performance during conditions where the roadway interferes with the path of radar.

As the 9 mile test was an unobstructed view, the height did not create an issue.

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I personally question the integrity of this test with statements such as these from the SML report:

..We also made a mistake...

Beltronics, Cobra, and Whistler have GPS in them to eliminate false alerts, but most importantly warn you of approaching automated enforcement systems.

Both Cobra, SL3 (MSRP $99.95), and Whistler, RLC-250 (MSRP $189.95) offer stand alone photo enforcement location products if you don’t desire to buy a radar detector. They also offer units including a radar detector with GPS for red light location.

If vehicles were of different heights, we made sure all detectors were at the same elevation.

The windshield of the Escort/Beltronics car and the Whistler car contained a composite possibly attenuating signal reception.

...Whistler 685 is the dash model of the remote Pro 3600. The detector can either serve as a remote or dash model. This is the only model available to do this.

My comments on the above quote:
685??? typo??.
If the 68SE is the dash model of the 3600, does that mean the 3600 isn't based on the Rev.C architecture?
And how about a remote which has the capability of either being remotely or windshield mounted with the appropriate installation kits? Sounds like a great idea!

The test setups and info in that report are anywhere from non-existent, sketchy, misleading or inaccurate.

Twelve inches off the ground is a definite disadvantage especially for overhill tests.
However its unclear how much the height/ground differential contributed to the disparity of the 1.5mi. IO, CO 68SE and 3600 results.
For example:
Ka 33.8
3600 - I = 3/9, C = 3/9
68SE - I = MAX, C = MAX
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[Michael B]

For the 1.5/1.0/.5 mile test, there were light rolling hill on this stretch of roadway and while I believe at the height of the windshield there was no obstruction, my opinion is that yes these light rolling hills would have been obstructed from direct line of sight from a unit at only 12" from the ground however I did not have a chance to run the Pro68SE at a 12" height so do not have supporting data to reflect this.

I do have supporting data on the over the hill test.