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  1. #11
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    Default Re: Is this for real?

    I don't believe the 3ft thing. Unless they're lense to lense (or horn) that would be the only way the Spectre would give any alert imo. Youtube has several videos confirming this.

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    Default Re: Is this for real?

    I think the fact he was doing 35 made the officer suspicious. I bet he felt he was transporting drugs, drinking, etc. Just how they do it on the Cocaine HWY in south Florida.


    All I am saying is if I were an LEO in an area where RD's were illegal and I was set up shooting radar and someone came by doing exactly 35 in a 35 I would be suspect they have a RD too.
    Last edited by Freebird; 06-25-2011 at 07:05 PM.

  3. #13
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    Default Re: Is this for real?

    Quote Originally Posted by StalkerRadar View Post
    It would be interesting to be able to test one. I have plans (if my wife doesn't kill me due to the $) to get an Escort Redline. I'd like to test it vs our Spectre Elite if I get one. I wouldn't say it is impossible for them to be detected. Here is some info from the Spectre website on the new Elite:

    The new Elite model RDD

    These improvements have been introduced on the Elite model RDD:

    Improvements to the anti cloaking system to defeat radar detectors with VG-2 alert or Spectre alert.
    The addition of a filter switch which enables the operator to shorten the range on poorly designed radar detectors whilst simultaneously retaining good sensitivity on more expensive units.
    Increased sensitivity on high end radar detectors
    Optional fitting of battery powered audio remote with "in operation" indicator. See specifications and further information below.
    I will definitely post my findings if I'm ever able to test any of the detectors. So far the only toys I get to play with are radar, lidar & RDDs.

    The thing about the RDD though, even if the detection range is only 50 feet, what the officer is supposed to be trained to do is sit along the edge of the road and angle it across at a 70-90 degree angle. This way they can pick up individual cars instead of driving along and pointing it forward (where you can't tell who has what or how far they are).
    You would think someone there at ACI has already done this........tested an M3 (RedLine, STi Driver, STi-R, 9500ci) against the Spectre?

    I don't think it has a snowballs chance looking between 10 - 25 GHZ. Maybe much lower, but then it would be detecting alot more than RD's.

    PS. What is the main culprit when the Stalker starts to lose range? The Gunn Diode, mixer diodes or both?
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    Default Re: Is this for real?

    Quote Originally Posted by nine_c1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by StalkerRadar View Post
    It would be interesting to be able to test one. I have plans (if my wife doesn't kill me due to the $) to get an Escort Redline. I'd like to test it vs our Spectre Elite if I get one. I wouldn't say it is impossible for them to be detected. Here is some info from the Spectre website on the new Elite:

    The new Elite model RDD

    These improvements have been introduced on the Elite model RDD:

    Improvements to the anti cloaking system to defeat radar detectors with VG-2 alert or Spectre alert.
    The addition of a filter switch which enables the operator to shorten the range on poorly designed radar detectors whilst simultaneously retaining good sensitivity on more expensive units.
    Increased sensitivity on high end radar detectors
    Optional fitting of battery powered audio remote with "in operation" indicator. See specifications and further information below.
    I will definitely post my findings if I'm ever able to test any of the detectors. So far the only toys I get to play with are radar, lidar & RDDs.

    The thing about the RDD though, even if the detection range is only 50 feet, what the officer is supposed to be trained to do is sit along the edge of the road and angle it across at a 70-90 degree angle. This way they can pick up individual cars instead of driving along and pointing it forward (where you can't tell who has what or how far they are).
    You would think someone there at ACI has already done this........tested an M3 (RedLine, STi Driver, STi-R, 9500ci) against the Spectre?

    I don't think it has a snowballs chance looking between 10 - 25 GHZ. Maybe much lower, but then it would be detecting alot more than RD's.

    PS. What is the main culprit when the Stalker starts to lose range? The Gunn Diode, mixer diodes or both?
    I don't think anyone at ACI has, as we just distribute the Spectre and do basic repairs on it. The guys in Australia who manufacture it I'm sure have done extensive testing, but they haven't mentioned much about it. This is why I'd like to test it and see how it goes. It could very well not detect it, I'd just like to see either way.

    As far as range on your Stalker unit, it depends on what sort of radar system it is. If it is a dual/dsr/2x/s2 it could be either the gunn diode or mixers, but most likely the mixers. An ATR is a different story and could be the coupling coil slipped between the wave guides (almost never happens), pre-amp going out, it really just depends. It is most probably the mixer though. What unit do you have?
    Last edited by StalkerRadar; 06-26-2011 at 10:11 AM.

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    Default Re: Is this for real?

    Was the STI stuck to the windshield (for the world to see) or were you using a visor clip ? Amazing now that belscort doesn't believe in visor mounts. I do !!!

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    Default Re: Is this for real?

    Quote Originally Posted by dr_King View Post
    Was the STI stuck to the windshield (for the world to see) or were you using a visor clip ? Amazing now that belscort doesn't believe in visor mounts. I do !!!
    This was a review on amazon he read and shared with us. SO no way of knowing where the STI was located.

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    Default Re: Is this for real?

    Quote Originally Posted by StalkerRadar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nine_c1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by StalkerRadar View Post
    It would be interesting to be able to test one. I have plans (if my wife doesn't kill me due to the $) to get an Escort Redline. I'd like to test it vs our Spectre Elite if I get one. I wouldn't say it is impossible for them to be detected. Here is some info from the Spectre website on the new Elite:

    The new Elite model RDD

    These improvements have been introduced on the Elite model RDD:

    Improvements to the anti cloaking system to defeat radar detectors with VG-2 alert or Spectre alert.
    The addition of a filter switch which enables the operator to shorten the range on poorly designed radar detectors whilst simultaneously retaining good sensitivity on more expensive units.
    Increased sensitivity on high end radar detectors
    Optional fitting of battery powered audio remote with "in operation" indicator. See specifications and further information below.
    I will definitely post my findings if I'm ever able to test any of the detectors. So far the only toys I get to play with are radar, lidar & RDDs.

    The thing about the RDD though, even if the detection range is only 50 feet, what the officer is supposed to be trained to do is sit along the edge of the road and angle it across at a 70-90 degree angle. This way they can pick up individual cars instead of driving along and pointing it forward (where you can't tell who has what or how far they are).
    You would think someone there at ACI has already done this........tested an M3 (RedLine, STi Driver, STi-R, 9500ci) against the Spectre?

    I don't think it has a snowballs chance looking between 10 - 25 GHZ. Maybe much lower, but then it would be detecting alot more than RD's.

    PS. What is the main culprit when the Stalker starts to lose range? The Gunn Diode, mixer diodes or both?
    I don't think anyone at ACI has, as we just distribute the Spectre and do basic repairs on it. The guys in Australia who manufacture it I'm sure have done extensive testing, but they haven't mentioned much about it. This is why I'd like to test it and see how it goes. It could very well not detect it, I'd just like to see either way.

    As far as range on your Stalker unit, it depends on what sort of radar system it is. If it is a dual/dsr/2x/s2 it could be either the gunn diode or mixers, but most likely the mixers. An ATR is a different story and could be the coupling coil slipped between the wave guides (almost never happens), pre-amp going out, it really just depends. It is most probably the mixer though. What unit do you have?
    I've "had" about (5) of the Stalker Duals (1st gen) and they have ranged from pretty bad.......to "Holy $hit, this sucker can reach out and touch someone"!

    Two of those were Factory Refurbished units purchased direct from Stalker, the 1st was a single antenna unit that I returned......range was not so great and usually would not read a target in same lane. The 2nd was a Dual Antenna unit that I could off myself for letting go! It was Christmas time and I needed the dinnero........but it was a sweet functioning unit with gobs of range and very quick target aquistion times.

    It's a hobby for me, but I'd love to get another Refurbed unit within the next month or so.......trouble is, doesn't look like there are any currently available. You know who is going to personally check out my next one though don't you?

    Thanks for responding! I kinda thought the Mixer diodes would be #1.........I've seen on the more expensive refurbs (DSRs) where they indicate "new mixer diodes" in the advertisement.

    BTW.......I dealt with Jim S. on the 1st refurb (and last that I know of) that Stalker sold on e-Bay. Like I said, I ended up returning that unit but I was floored that the Director of Sales for ACI took personal care of me. Unbelievable company.......even if you are working for the wrong side.
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  8. #18
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    Default Re: Is this for real?

    I'm skeptical some county bumpkin cop had a spectre too. I've driven by multiple state troopers with my X50 on and as of yet no ticket (mounted high behind tint strip)...if I've never seen a spectre in Henrico Co. or City of Richmond I doubt some little county would invest the money for this device. Now if it was a statey that's another story alltogether, although even for State Troopers it seems that Spectres are not in every car (or are not used, which leads to the same conclusion...)

  9. #19
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    Default Re: Is this for real?

    Do you have a radar detector?

    Why yes officer thank you for asking!

    Do you have cocaine on you?

    Why yes officer thank you for asking!

    How fast was you going in this 55 zone?

    85 officer Thank you for asking!

    I bet that was his next three traffic stops word for word.

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    Default Re: Is this for real?

    this is one of the reasons why it would suck so bad to live in states that makes RD's illegal.

 

 

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