Got the Wrong Detector!

[Idontgo55]

Again this shows you know nothing to compare a 150 Rd to a 500 rd Yes it's for people who have the money to spend which are diff types of people the cost diff isn't just the GPS do you really think the 78 range is that of a ix?

idontgo55 you fail at reading, you really do.

They ARE NOT comparing range.

They ARE comparing RESPONSE TIME.

Two completely different things here and it has been proven time and time again that the V1/Pro 78 RESPONSE TIME will pick up bursts of radar <300ms where as 9500ix etc. must see the signal for approximately 500ms BEFORE an alert will happen.

I put in bold the important words so you can better understand this post.

Once again comparing RESPONSE TIME and NOT range or sensitivity.

Again that guy said you can have everything a ix is but GPS for 150 bucks Guess you didn't see that one

I'll pick getting maybe owned by QT then C/O That is what a Pro 78 will do

[CJR238]

Again this shows you know nothing to compare a 150 Rd to a 500 rd Yes it's for people who have the money to spend which are diff types of people the cost diff isn't just the GPS do you really think the 78 range is that of a ix?

idontgo55 you fail at reading, you really do.

They ARE NOT comparing range.

They ARE comparing RESPONSE TIME.

Two completely different things here and it has been proven time and time again that the V1/Pro 78 RESPONSE TIME will pick up bursts of radar <300ms where as 9500ix etc. must see the signal for approximately 500ms BEFORE an alert will happen.

I put in bold the important words so you can better understand this post.

Once again comparing RESPONSE TIME and NOT range or sensitivity.

Again that guy said you can have everything a ix is but GPS for 150 bucks Guess you didn't see that one

I'll pick getting maybe owned by QT then C/O That is what a Pro 78 will do

To argue about QT is BS just to make one product sound better than another. You guys are arguing over something that has about as much chance of happening as being struck by lightning depending on where you live.

If response time is being argued range or sensitivity should also be taken into account. This can go on forever with each manufactures faults/weaknesses.

They all suck! From the QT BS of Belscort, to Whistlers confusing X & K, even the V1 J out a real LEO.

[Divewjason]

^There is nothing wrong with using an ix, but everyone here who reads in this forum should be aware of Escort's shortcomings to quick bursts of instant on. Given the right terrain Whistlers do provide great performance for $150 bucks. Whereas you get a lot of features and gps with the Escort 9500ix. Both are great detectors meant for different crowds, but because a detector without gps is cheaper than one with a gps does not make it suck.

That aside, remember that the 9500ix uses a detection platform that can be had for $150 bucks! The GPS is what makes the ix more expensive and it is up to the user to decide if it is worth the money.

Well said, however the 9500ix doesint use a detection platform that can be had for $150 bucks, more like $300. Its an excellent platform that's derived from one of the most advanced and is the bench mark for for all RD's available today.

You are correct when we are talking brand new. I was referring to the refurbs.

^There is nothing wrong with using an ix, but everyone here who reads in this forum should be aware of Escort's shortcomings to quick bursts of instant on. Given the right terrain Whistlers do provide great performance for $150 bucks. Whereas you get a lot of features and gps with the Escort 9500ix. Both are great detectors meant for different crowds, but because a detector without gps is cheaper than one with a gps does not make it suck.

That aside, remember that the 9500ix uses a detection platform that can be had for $150 bucks! The GPS is what makes the ix more expensive and it is up to the user to decide if it is worth the money.

Again this shows you know nothing to compare a 150 Rd to a 500 rd Yes it's for people who have the money to spend which are diff types of people the cost diff isn't just the GPS do you really think the 78 range is that of a ix?

Why do I know nothing for making that comparison? Apparently you and others are guilty of doing so.

It's not just money. Some people don't need or have the desire of having a gps enabled detector. This is nothing wrong with running a Whistler, all I am seeing from you is senseless bashing. Under certain circumstances the Pro 78 will have the range of an ix. Will the pro 78 always meet or beat the ix in range? Nope. But the ix won't always beat the 78 either. My Cobra has beat my STI-R in range before. Most of the time they alert at the same time. Under the right circumstances any detector will win. In fact, many times you will get the same sort of alert on the ix that you would get on the Whistler due to obstruction of the radar signal. The question is, how much range do you need?

It is like you with your Escort jammers. You know they aren't the best protection but you run them because they have helped you slow down in time to avoid a ticket. Now, if I want to use the same flawed logic as you are using now I can bash you for not getting Laser Inceptor jammers.

Not to mention, you keep talking about range, they were talking about response time or "reactivity" as the term is used on this forum. The 78 will respond faster than the M4 platform without a doubt. How would you get owned by C/O with a pro 78? The only scenario where my XTR 695 did horrible with was forward facing radar, my STI-R and my Cobra also sucks against forward facing. I have the luxury of running two detectors and when it comes to C/O the 695 or 9960G will alert at the same time as the STI-R in C/O in most cases. But I've never had a close call with C/O with my 695. Have you ever ran a Whistler to verify this for yourself?

[snoopyc4]

They all suck!

Well said! That should end the argument.

[PHILBERT]

The more I drive towards Orlando on the FL TPK, the more I see I/O and now Q/T. I was blasting along the other day and rounded a curve above Yeehaw Junction somewhere when I saw two staties off the side facing oncoming traffic. No alert on the 9500ix. Eye save for me (or 9.99 over PSL got a pass), and I was in front, but they did pull out and nail someone behind me. I never heard a blip on the 9500ix.

I'm waiting for the STi-R Plus or the Redline ix to come out. That will be my next detector(s). I like my 9500ix, and get saves all the time, but it needs better Q/T response. Still....If you are out in front, and come up to a hidden area where they blast you with I/O, you are toast. This "game" is all about increasing your odds not to get caught, but nothing is 100% coverage. Sooner or later you will get nailed.

[Idontgo55]

^There is nothing wrong with using an ix, but everyone here who reads in this forum should be aware of Escort's shortcomings to quick bursts of instant on. Given the right terrain Whistlers do provide great performance for $150 bucks. Whereas you get a lot of features and gps with the Escort 9500ix. Both are great detectors meant for different crowds, but because a detector without gps is cheaper than one with a gps does not make it suck.

That aside, remember that the 9500ix uses a detection platform that can be had for $150 bucks! The GPS is what makes the ix more expensive and it is up to the user to decide if it is worth the money.

Well said, however the 9500ix doesint use a detection platform that can be had for $150 bucks, more like $300. Its an excellent platform that's derived from one of the most advanced and is the bench mark for for all RD's available today.

You are correct, I had a brain fart. That is the refurb 8500. Thanks for pointing that out.

^There is nothing wrong with using an ix, but everyone here who reads in this forum should be aware of Escort's shortcomings to quick bursts of instant on. Given the right terrain Whistlers do provide great performance for $150 bucks. Whereas you get a lot of features and gps with the Escort 9500ix. Both are great detectors meant for different crowds, but because a detector without gps is cheaper than one with a gps does not make it suck.

That aside, remember that the 9500ix uses a detection platform that can be had for $150 bucks! The GPS is what makes the ix more expensive and it is up to the user to decide if it is worth the money.

Again this shows you know nothing to compare a 150 Rd to a 500 rd Yes it's for people who have the money to spend which are diff types of people the cost diff isn't just the GPS do you really think the 78 range is that of a ix?

Why do I know nothing for making that comparison? Apparently you and others are guilty of doing so.

It's not just money. Some people don't need or have the desire of having a gps enabled detector. This is nothing wrong with running a Whistler, all I am seeing from you is senseless bashing. Under certain circumstances the Pro 78 will have the range of an ix. My Cobra has beat my STI-R in range before. Under the right circumstances any detector will win. In fact, many times you will get the same sort of alert on the ix that you would get on the Whistler due to obstruction of the radar signal. The question is, how much range do you need?
protection, but it has proven time and time again to give you the time to slow down. The same can be said with budget detectors. So, that being said, would you like me to start bashing you for not running LI's?

Not to mention, you keep talking about range, they were talking about response time or "reactivity" as the term is used on this forum. The 78 will respond faster than the M4 platform without a doubt.

bash me for not having LI'S or hp Li's or blinder also I thought about Li's getting them but for one reason we can't talk about why I choose to stay away it's not the price either

Not sure but range is sure a big thing when you speed the more range the better I go 20+ plus over at any given time I have zr3's only because I bought them before I knew better

QT will get you owned either way like running over the limit with a leo using laser without jammers

[Divewjason]

^There is nothing wrong with using an ix, but everyone here who reads in this forum should be aware of Escort's shortcomings to quick bursts of instant on. Given the right terrain Whistlers do provide great performance for $150 bucks. Whereas you get a lot of features and gps with the Escort 9500ix. Both are great detectors meant for different crowds, but because a detector without gps is cheaper than one with a gps does not make it suck.

That aside, remember that the 9500ix uses a detection platform that can be had for $150 bucks! The GPS is what makes the ix more expensive and it is up to the user to decide if it is worth the money.

Well said, however the 9500ix doesint use a detection platform that can be had for $150 bucks, more like $300. Its an excellent platform that's derived from one of the most advanced and is the bench mark for for all RD's available today.

You are correct, I had a brain fart. That is the refurb 8500. Thanks for pointing that out.

^There is nothing wrong with using an ix, but everyone here who reads in this forum should be aware of Escort's shortcomings to quick bursts of instant on. Given the right terrain Whistlers do provide great performance for $150 bucks. Whereas you get a lot of features and gps with the Escort 9500ix. Both are great detectors meant for different crowds, but because a detector without gps is cheaper than one with a gps does not make it suck.

That aside, remember that the 9500ix uses a detection platform that can be had for $150 bucks! The GPS is what makes the ix more expensive and it is up to the user to decide if it is worth the money.

Again this shows you know nothing to compare a 150 Rd to a 500 rd Yes it's for people who have the money to spend which are diff types of people the cost diff isn't just the GPS do you really think the 78 range is that of a ix?

Why do I know nothing for making that comparison? Apparently you and others are guilty of doing so.

It's not just money. Some people don't need or have the desire of having a gps enabled detector. This is nothing wrong with running a Whistler, all I am seeing from you is senseless bashing. Under certain circumstances the Pro 78 will have the range of an ix. My Cobra has beat my STI-R in range before. Under the right circumstances any detector will win. In fact, many times you will get the same sort of alert on the ix that you would get on the Whistler due to obstruction of the radar signal. The question is, how much range do you need?
protection, but it has proven time and time again to give you the time to slow down. The same can be said with budget detectors. So, that being said, would you like me to start bashing you for not running LI's?

Not to mention, you keep talking about range, they were talking about response time or "reactivity" as the term is used on this forum. The 78 will respond faster than the M4 platform without a doubt.

bash me for not having LI'S or hp Li's or blinder also I thought about Li's getting them but for one reason we can't talk about why I choose to stay away it's not the price either

Not sure but range is sure a big thing when you speed the more range the better I go 20+ plus over at any given time I have zr3's only because I bought them before I knew better

QT will get you owned either way like running over the limit with a leo using laser without jammers

Range is a very big deal. Honestly I learned a lot by being able to run an M3 detector along with various other, less sensitive detectors. I'm actually thinking about getting a 9500ix myself for testing purposes. I'm in the process of buying a house though so it has to wait.

I didn't plan on bashing you for using Escort's Jammers. I was just making a point that you don't have to get the most advanced technology to be able to participate in this game.(Unless we are talking about buying the REALLY cheap counter measures that we all agree do not work such as ESD7400's etc.)

[cooljay]

I honestly don't pick sides in the whole RD battle. EVERY RD HAS ITS OWN FAULTS, end of story. You can always find something wrong with anything electronic.

Honestly these forums use to be pretty good place to come and discuss things in a civil manner but it seems everyone gets on their high horse that THEIR detector is better than YOURS, no matter what it is. Honestly I wish the mods would step in and stop all that B$ but some of the mods themselves are guilty of this very same thing. This should be a place to be able to discuss things in a civil way and without the fear of being flamed by the fan bois.

But eh, that's just my 2 cents.

[Obsidian]

I honestly don't pick sides in the whole RD battle. EVERY RD HAS ITS OWN FAULTS, end of story. You can always find something wrong with anything electronic.

Honestly these forums use to be pretty good place to come and discuss things in a civil manner but it seems everyone gets on their high horse that THEIR detector is better than YOURS, no matter what it is. Honestly I wish the mods would step in and stop all that B$ but some of the mods themselves are guilty of this very same thing. This should be a place to be able to discuss things in a civil way and without the fear of being flamed by the fan bois.

But eh, that's just my 2 cents.

X2. There is no perfect detector. However, you can bet it if ever happens it will come from Escort. Valentine has no innovation and I doubt they even have a R&D team any more.

Escort is close ... as soon as they add speed and combine it with their GPS technology, that's it really. A fast Redline with GPS would be the end of the argument. Arrows would be icing, but not 100&#37; necessary IMO.

[Silver Bullet]

I honestly don't pick sides in the whole RD battle. EVERY RD HAS ITS OWN FAULTS, end of story. You can always find something wrong with anything electronic.

Honestly these forums use to be pretty good place to come and discuss things in a civil manner but it seems everyone gets on their high horse that THEIR detector is better than YOURS, no matter what it is. Honestly I wish the mods would step in and stop all that B$ but some of the mods themselves are guilty of this very same thing. This should be a place to be able to discuss things in a civil way and without the fear of being flamed by the fan bois.

But eh, that's just my 2 cents.

+1^...well said cooljay!!! Too many "my brother can beat up your brother" arguments.

I run a CI and absolutely love it...but that definitely doesn't mean it's perfect by any means. That said, if you don't mind spending the money I personally don't see why anyone would want anything else. Having everything in one neat package is definitely the way to go. The shifters aren't the best but remember, many have had JTG success with the ZR4's on multiple guns...it really all depends on your vehicle how well they work. But to say they are complete garbage is false...ask CJR about his ZR4 tests!

As for other detectors, I did have a Whistler back in the day (can't remember what model) that saved my butt numerous times. It really was a great RD that paid for itself numerous times. This was back in the early 90's though and things have changed a lot since. Not bashing anyone, but I would not waste my $$$ on a Cobra or Whistler in today's environment...but hey, to each his own.

And the Belscort Q/T "issue", I'm sorry but this is blown waaaaaaaaaaaaay out of proportion. The M3 platform of my CI provides more than enough protection and I am beyond confident that if I'm ever in a situation where I'm owned by Q/T or I/O, more often than not a V1 or Whistler would be owned as well.