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  1. #41

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    Quote Originally Posted by interceptor
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    Quote Originally Posted by muledoe1
    In honesty how well does the LI compare to the LPP.


    Also there is new Salker LZ1 algorithm and is also JTG!
    I got a question about those numbers

    1st the jammer heads were not all in the same spot they were all installed at the same time. With that said the installs of some heads had a more tactical advantage over the others. Crazyvolvorob showed me a picture of the m-40 install and it was a JOKE I am surprised at the numbers it got, I would have expected less.
    2nd the instant PT from the UL 100 PPS gun was before the LPP 100 PPS fix done
    But I am surprised at the over all performance of the LPP so like I said before $hitty install
    Or maybe they were using a Laser Defender… :wink:


    No offence Happy$$ and the rest of the crew but try to give them all a fair shake spend 3 days instead of 1 afternoon and put the dual head units all in the same place.
    To me this is a scientific experiment in an experiment you have to have control, which means you mount them ALL in the same spot.


    THIS IS BIG TIME BS !!!!!

    Jammers was instaled one at the time, exactly same place same bracket, on all instalations ware used bouble levels to make sure install is perfect..

    man you dont know what are you talking about...
    thats not the story i got

    are you sure you know what you are talking about?

    yes, i know what i am talking about, i was there unlike u...
    Yea i know you were along with Elvis taping the videos GOL

    HUMMMM sounds kind of fishy to me.......

    Is there a double standard with LI?
    A LPP dealer gets banned within 4 hours of register
    Just because he or she does not want to make known their location by using a proxy doesn’t sound suspicious i like the idea keeps people form asking "where to buy" that person didn’t even have a chance to say a word.
    Its not like they were posing Blinder failure videos or something like that
    WHAT IS THE DEAL IN THIS FORUM!!!
    WHO IS IN WHOS POCKET!!!!

    AGAIN WRONG...

    man you are so full of BS... and can not stand that LI kick LPP ass...

    Elvis head no camera at all...

    get your facts straight before posting and looking so stupid...
    Oh maybe it wasn’t a camera still you just admitted you were there and Elvis was too

    Well enlighten us what exactly was he doing there??

    Shooting the LIDAR guns maybe??


    And by the way I really like your product the voice alerts and the system looks great.
    If it kicks my LPPs ass that’s cool too everyone is always inventing a better mousetrap.
    I got no problem whatsoever with the LI.


    But be sure I will buy one for testing and we will see what happens with an IR camera a IR camera sees what is going on and it cant lie.

    The problem I have is the political BS that is associated with these products. Who is paying WHO off in this testing. IF the product performs GREAT! But I am going to test it myself, we will have our 08 IRCMUSA shootout. it will include the Truspeed gun when it is avalible I am on the list to get one.



    And also be sure when we do our testing, the vendors and product designers WON’T be there.

  2. #42

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    Quote Originally Posted by PMoth
    IRCMUSA, why the hostility man? Whats up with all the double standard allegations? Its been clear that a group of members band in the pass have to stay band. They tried multiple times to access this site remotely through various techniques. If someone signs up and is using a remote proxy and such for no good reason, it does look suspiceous.
    Doesn’t matter dude the point is that person announced who he was and that’s it!!!

    Immediately they were banned.

    Doesn’t say anything in the RD.net rule book you cant post from a proxy

    RD.net makes up the rules as they go along.
    If the person was selling the LPP or something that was not allowed BAN HIM.
    But that wasn’t the case.

  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by IRCMUSA
    Quote Originally Posted by interceptor
    Quote Originally Posted by IRCMUSA
    Quote Originally Posted by interceptor
    Quote Originally Posted by IRCMUSA
    Quote Originally Posted by interceptor
    Quote Originally Posted by IRCMUSA
    Quote Originally Posted by g-zona
    Quote Originally Posted by muledoe1
    In honesty how well does the LI compare to the LPP.


    Also there is new Salker LZ1 algorithm and is also JTG!
    I got a question about those numbers

    1st the jammer heads were not all in the same spot they were all installed at the same time. With that said the installs of some heads had a more tactical advantage over the others. Crazyvolvorob showed me a picture of the m-40 install and it was a JOKE I am surprised at the numbers it got, I would have expected less.
    2nd the instant PT from the UL 100 PPS gun was before the LPP 100 PPS fix done
    But I am surprised at the over all performance of the LPP so like I said before $hitty install
    Or maybe they were using a Laser Defender… :wink:


    No offence Happy$$ and the rest of the crew but try to give them all a fair shake spend 3 days instead of 1 afternoon and put the dual head units all in the same place.
    To me this is a scientific experiment in an experiment you have to have control, which means you mount them ALL in the same spot.


    THIS IS BIG TIME BS !!!!!

    Jammers was instaled one at the time, exactly same place same bracket, on all instalations ware used bouble levels to make sure install is perfect..

    man you dont know what are you talking about...
    thats not the story i got

    are you sure you know what you are talking about?

    yes, i know what i am talking about, i was there unlike u...
    Yea i know you were along with Elvis taping the videos GOL

    HUMMMM sounds kind of fishy to me.......

    Is there a double standard with LI?
    A LPP dealer gets banned within 4 hours of register
    Just because he or she does not want to make known their location by using a proxy doesn’t sound suspicious i like the idea keeps people form asking "where to buy" that person didn’t even have a chance to say a word.
    Its not like they were posing Blinder failure videos or something like that
    WHAT IS THE DEAL IN THIS FORUM!!!
    WHO IS IN WHOS POCKET!!!!

    AGAIN WRONG...

    man you are so full of BS... and can not stand that LI kick LPP ass...

    Elvis head no camera at all...

    get your facts straight before posting and looking so stupid...
    Oh maybe it wasn’t a camera still you just admitted you were there and Elvis was too

    Well enlighten us what exactly was he doing there??

    Shooting the LIDAR guns maybe??


    And by the way I really like your product the voice alerts and the system looks great.
    If it kicks my LPPs ass that’s cool too everyone is always inventing a better mousetrap.
    I got no problem whatsoever with the LI.


    But be sure I will buy one for testing and we will see what happens with an IR camera a IR camera sees what is going on and it cant lie.

    The problem I have is the political BS that is associated with these products. Who is paying WHO off in this testing. IF the product performs GREAT! But I am going to test it myself, we will have our 08 IRCMUSA shootout. it will include the Truspeed gun when it is avalible I am on the list to get one.



    And also be sure when we do our testing, the vendors and product designers WON’T be there.
    why dont you ask him wtf he was doing there??

    i can tell you one thing for sure, GOL event was the FIRST contact of me and ELVIS, so there is NO hiden stuff, NO BS, nothing to hide like you trying to indicate. ALL is clear man, no BS in background, maybe some of GOL members can confirm what am i saying..

    based on your posts, you are tring to discredit me, elvis, li, GOL.. i am wondering why???

    i have no dabuts you will get one LI, get it UNFER testing and publish BAD DATA for it, since it realy looks like you are one with agenda...

  4. #44

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    Quote Originally Posted by interceptor
    Quote Originally Posted by IRCMUSA
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    Quote Originally Posted by IRCMUSA
    Quote Originally Posted by interceptor
    Quote Originally Posted by IRCMUSA
    Quote Originally Posted by interceptor
    Quote Originally Posted by IRCMUSA
    Quote Originally Posted by g-zona
    Quote Originally Posted by muledoe1
    In honesty how well does the LI compare to the LPP.


    Also there is new Salker LZ1 algorithm and is also JTG!
    I got a question about those numbers

    1st the jammer heads were not all in the same spot they were all installed at the same time. With that said the installs of some heads had a more tactical advantage over the others. Crazyvolvorob showed me a picture of the m-40 install and it was a JOKE I am surprised at the numbers it got, I would have expected less.
    2nd the instant PT from the UL 100 PPS gun was before the LPP 100 PPS fix done
    But I am surprised at the over all performance of the LPP so like I said before $hitty install
    Or maybe they were using a Laser Defender… :wink:


    No offence Happy$$ and the rest of the crew but try to give them all a fair shake spend 3 days instead of 1 afternoon and put the dual head units all in the same place.
    To me this is a scientific experiment in an experiment you have to have control, which means you mount them ALL in the same spot.


    THIS IS BIG TIME BS !!!!!

    Jammers was instaled one at the time, exactly same place same bracket, on all instalations ware used bouble levels to make sure install is perfect..

    man you dont know what are you talking about...
    thats not the story i got

    are you sure you know what you are talking about?

    yes, i know what i am talking about, i was there unlike u...
    Yea i know you were along with Elvis taping the videos GOL

    HUMMMM sounds kind of fishy to me.......

    Is there a double standard with LI?
    A LPP dealer gets banned within 4 hours of register
    Just because he or she does not want to make known their location by using a proxy doesn’t sound suspicious i like the idea keeps people form asking "where to buy" that person didn’t even have a chance to say a word.
    Its not like they were posing Blinder failure videos or something like that
    WHAT IS THE DEAL IN THIS FORUM!!!
    WHO IS IN WHOS POCKET!!!!

    AGAIN WRONG...

    man you are so full of BS... and can not stand that LI kick LPP ass...

    Elvis head no camera at all...

    get your facts straight before posting and looking so stupid...
    Oh maybe it wasn’t a camera still you just admitted you were there and Elvis was too

    Well enlighten us what exactly was he doing there??

    Shooting the LIDAR guns maybe??


    And by the way I really like your product the voice alerts and the system looks great.
    If it kicks my LPPs ass that’s cool too everyone is always inventing a better mousetrap.
    I got no problem whatsoever with the LI.


    But be sure I will buy one for testing and we will see what happens with an IR camera a IR camera sees what is going on and it cant lie.

    The problem I have is the political BS that is associated with these products. Who is paying WHO off in this testing. IF the product performs GREAT! But I am going to test it myself, we will have our 08 IRCMUSA shootout. it will include the Truspeed gun when it is avalible I am on the list to get one.



    And also be sure when we do our testing, the vendors and product designers WON’T be there.
    why dont you ask him wtf he was doing there??

    i can tell you one thing for sure, GOL event was the FIRST contact of me and ELVIS, so there is NO hiden stuff, NO BS, nothing to hide like you trying to indicate. ALL is clear man, no BS in background, maybe some of GOL members can confirm what am i saying..

    based on your posts, you are tring to discredit me, elvis, li, GOL.. i am wondering why???

    i have no dabuts you will get one LI, get it UNFER testing and publish BAD DATA for it, since it realy looks like you are one with agenda...


    No BS here "I KEEP IT REAL" no really though if the product performs well you have nothing to worry about dude.
    And I will enjoy playing with it. As you know I am a dealer for a few products. The reason I am a dealer is I get those products at resale prices and if someone wants to buy from me cool I will sell anything what someone likes. Plus I don’t have the “credibility” that some jammer companies will just give me one for testing. But that’s ok it keeps the prototypes out.
    I sell products and install products only if they perform.
    I will not sell junk, or give a customer hopes and dreams.
    Wouldn’t you want to buy form a dealer that can tell the truth on the performance and test the system also?
    That’s just how I roll….


    Im done trying to piss you off now

    Interceptor,
    I love you man.

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    Aww I feel the love in here now



    Ok......a little too weired for me.....Im out

    :P

  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by IRCMUSA
    1st the jammer heads were not all in the same spot they were all installed at the same time. With that said the installs of some heads had a more tactical advantage over the others. Crazyvolvorob showed me a picture of the m-40 install and it was a JOKE I am surprised at the numbers it got, I would have expected less.
    Why do you LIE? The dual head jammers were both moutned in the same spots!!!! They were constant check to see that they were level as well.

    The Blinder M40 installation was perfect as well as far as install goes. The mounting spot for it was decided on members of GOL and it was then discussed by others to be a good install. Honestly the numbers of the the Blinder runs surprised alot of people.
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    Elvis had no connection to LI when he was shooting for the test. Also this jammer was also shot at by GOL members and others trying their hardest to get punchthrough on the unoffical results. I would also like to remind people that there was also another certified Lidar operator operating the gun at times as well...
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    PS this is the story from the guy who help to install all the jammers and was in the test vehicle for each jammer. Test Vehicle also had a V1 to tell when laser was being shot at the car
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    LPP dealer was banned because they were posting from a proxy! That is a violation of rules and will get any member banned. All they need to do is to call Roy and verify that they are the american dealer :wink:

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  7. #47

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyVOLVOrob
    Quote Originally Posted by IRCMUSA
    1st the jammer heads were not all in the same spot they were all installed at the same time. With that said the installs of some heads had a more tactical advantage over the others. Crazyvolvorob showed me a picture of the m-40 install and it was a JOKE I am surprised at the numbers it got, I would have expected less.
    Why do you LIE? The dual head jammers were both moutned in the same spots!!!! They were constant check to see that they were level as well.

    The Blinder M40 installation was perfect as well as far as install goes. The mounting spot for it was decided on members of GOL and it was then discussed by others to be a good install. Honestly the numbers of the the Blinder runs surprised alot of people.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Elvis had no connection to LI when he was shooting for the test. Also this jammer was also shot at by GOL members and others trying their hardest to get punchthrough on the unoffical results. I would also like to remind people that there was also another certified Lidar operator operating the gun at times as well...
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------
    PS this is the story from the guy who help to install all the jammers and was in the test vehicle for each jammer. Test Vehicle also had a V1 to tell when laser was being shot at the car

    my bad man
    i mean the jammers in the smae spot by removing them not mounting them under eachother so in a sence "not in the same spot"
    also can you show me the same picture you did a few months back of how the m-40 was monted and i will show you what im talking about as a joke.
    not that it was instlled badly but not a very tactiacl positon for a m-40

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    Well here is the picture of the install.

    The front end is well cofvered if you as me

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    Laser Jammer-Laser Interceptor Quad
    GPS Camera Locator-Cheetah C100
    GPS Nav-Garmin nuvi w/Trapster
    CB Radio-Galaxy DX-949 w/Wilson 500
    Scanner-RS Pro-96

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    That is what i was thinking for the LI placement on the neon. I plan to put them near the intercooler though.

    Only thing that will be tricky is the rear. There is no room for placement unless inside the lis. plate area. Or custome install..

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyVOLVOrob
    Well here is the picture of the install.

    The front end is well cofvered if you as me
    ok great
    now I want to clear something up first im not trying to be a liar I really hate when people call me that im just going by the info I get I wisent there that’s all.
    anyway on the blinder install here you are not fully utilizing the m40 detection potential.

    anyway knowing what I know now about the detection of the blinder systems mounted vertically its is right at 50% better on a horizontal line


    there is a big F ing hole right here im surprised the numbers you got for the m-40 was as good as they were
    the amount of detection with this install would be more like using an m-30




    I would have installed the system more spread out utilizing the whole area and with the M-40 if ya got 4 heads use them.









    Rob I say this with all the respect in the world bro, but I would have done things just a smigin different thats all.
    Hopefully you guys will try some different things on the next test run.


    just a little constructive criticism coming form another enthusiast.

 

 

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