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  1. #11
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    Default Re: How important is rear laser detection?

    Quote Originally Posted by StandingCow View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by v1user View Post
    Rear laser detection lets you know to get your checkbook ready.
    yea, exactly. If laser is used in your area, only protection is a laser jammer... your laser/rd just becomes a ticket detector.. if it even goes off.
    I read this a lot on here - front laser too. However; a radar detector is just a tool, a warning device. RD can be used to protect drivers from laser if they are smart. It is possible to pick up laser "scatter" from other targeted vehicles. Drivers have to be aware of what is going on around them. Not just because of speed enforcement but all the other factors that can get a driver in trouble. It's called defensive driving. Other vehicles braking, vehicles pulling out in front of them, tailgaters, debrise in the road, etc. Ever seen drivers who have some warning that a LEO is running enforcement and are driving accordingly, and then the driver who has to shoot out past them - sometimes with a RD on the windshield.....

    Probably true though, especially if a driver is out alone, with no other vehicles around, and it speeding, and gets targeted front or rear with laser (or radar for that matter) and the LEO wants to stop them, they are probably gonna get a ticket.

  2. #12
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    Default Re: How important is rear laser detection?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gokhos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by StandingCow View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by v1user View Post
    Rear laser detection lets you know to get your checkbook ready.
    yea, exactly. If laser is used in your area, only protection is a laser jammer... your laser/rd just becomes a ticket detector.. if it even goes off.
    I read this a lot on here - front laser too. However; a radar detector is just a tool, a warning device. RD can be used to protect drivers from laser if they are smart. It is possible to pick up laser "scatter" from other targeted vehicles. Drivers have to be aware of what is going on around them. Not just because of speed enforcement but all the other factors that can get a driver in trouble. It's called defensive driving. Other vehicles braking, vehicles pulling out in front of them, tailgaters, debrise in the road, etc. Ever seen drivers who have some warning that a LEO is running enforcement and are driving accordingly, and then the driver who has to shoot out past them - sometimes with a RD on the windshield.....

    Probably true though, especially if a driver is out alone, with no other vehicles around, and it speeding, and gets targeted front or rear with laser (or radar for that matter) and the LEO wants to stop them, they are probably gonna get a ticket.
    If you get a "scatter" warning, you are blessed... Yes, a radar detector is just a tool, and nothing can replace you being alert, but it is different from radar... with radar you get a warning ahead of time (if you are smart, and use a rabbit, plus a bit of luck). Hell, radar can be as deadly as laser if the leo is smart with I/O.

    Even a lazy C/O cop can catch you if you are the only one on the road. It is all about knowing when and where to press the pedal down a bit further.

  3. #13
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    Default Re: How important is rear laser detection?

    I would say rear laser detection is useless. If you're shot up the rear, you've just been screwed.

    That said, the ONLY detector (that I've used) that has decent rear laser detection is the V1 anyway. The Belscorts have that tiny lens on top that is usually blocked from a good rear view anyway.

    If rear laser is a problem where you are, there is only one solution... a rear mounted jammer.

    If you are lucky enough to get scatter from a rear laser attack on the car in front of you... guess what, that would be picked up by your RD's FRONT laser sensor.
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  4. #14
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    Default Re: How important is rear laser detection?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gokhos View Post
    It is possible to pick up laser "scatter" from other targeted vehicles.
    Certainly. However, I doubt anyone ever gets scatter from the rear.

  5. #15
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    Default Re: How important is rear laser detection?

    Quote Originally Posted by StandingCow View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gokhos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by StandingCow View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by v1user View Post
    Rear laser detection lets you know to get your checkbook ready.
    yea, exactly. If laser is used in your area, only protection is a laser jammer... your laser/rd just becomes a ticket detector.. if it even goes off.
    I read this a lot on here - front laser too. However; a radar detector is just a tool, a warning device. RD can be used to protect drivers from laser if they are smart. It is possible to pick up laser "scatter" from other targeted vehicles. Drivers have to be aware of what is going on around them. Not just because of speed enforcement but all the other factors that can get a driver in trouble. It's called defensive driving. Other vehicles braking, vehicles pulling out in front of them, tailgaters, debrise in the road, etc. Ever seen drivers who have some warning that a LEO is running enforcement and are driving accordingly, and then the driver who has to shoot out past them - sometimes with a RD on the windshield.....

    Probably true though, especially if a driver is out alone, with no other vehicles around, and it speeding, and gets targeted front or rear with laser (or radar for that matter) and the LEO wants to stop them, they are probably gonna get a ticket.
    If you get a "scatter" warning, you are blessed... Yes, a radar detector is just a tool, and nothing can replace you being alert, but it is different from radar... with radar you get a warning ahead of time (if you are smart, and use a rabbit, plus a bit of luck). Hell, radar can be as deadly as laser if the leo is smart with I/O.

    Even a lazy C/O cop can catch you if you are the only one on the road. It is all about knowing when and where to press the pedal down a bit further.

    Very true. We would all be better off if everyone paid more attention when they drive.

  6. #16

    Default Re: How important is rear laser detection?

    +1 to djrams.

    Rear detection is good marketing, but essentially useless. If you get scatter, which I doubt, you are already in the LEO’s readout, toast. I’ve had scatter only twice, reading the laser through someone else’s windshields ahead of me as they were being targeted. Without a front and rear jammer you’re not protected. They are doing a fair amount of targeting in my area from the rear. One of the members here recently posted a TV news vid showing NCHP targeting I-77 southbound from Tyvola Rd., all shots were in the back.

    My son and I did a large amount of testing of rear laser shots when CMPD had the photo laser vans here (shoots only in the back due to having only a rear tag). He was using a 1.7 and I was using a 1.8 to see if there was a different. I did get scatter when he went first and I was following 1 to 2 car lengths behind, but not consistently. Anything past 1 to 2 car lengths and nothing. We switched detectors and same results. At times he would drive a van through the test, same 1 to 2 car lengths with a highly large and reflective back end. The 1.7 had the little dot on the rear of the RD for laser reception. Going solo down the road, no alert until you were past the van, in the beam and at that point you are toast.

    Can you get scatter, yes, consistently, no, if you want protection get a front AND rear jammer.

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  7. #17
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    Default Re: How important is rear laser detection?

    Mount high. Mounting high will also help rear radar detection which is very important.

  8. #18

    Default Re: How important is rear laser detection?

    '' Can you get scatter, yes, consistently, no, if you want protection get a front AND rear jammer. ''

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  9. #19
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    Default Re: How important is rear laser detection?

    Rear laser detection is completely worthless. No way you are going to pickup rear scatter and once you are targeted from the rear the gig is up unless you have jammers.

    Laser detection is marketing hype, laser protection requires a jammer.
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  10. #20
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    Default Re: How important is rear laser detection?

    Quote Originally Posted by JDS View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Eloi View Post
    Never been targetted in the back during the last 5 years.

    But I read a court report where the leo was not able to obtain
    a speed from a truck , so he shot it at the back ....ticket.

    Protection for the rear is only achieved with a precise install
    of a top unit
    I got targeted from behind. LEO was sitting in a ditch, in the dark, letting cars pass by him and hitting the rear license plates.
    Where did that happen? Miami area?

 

 

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